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If both pro- and anti-Brexit are outraged, this should be a pretty clear indicator that it's not bias or manufactured editorializing. "Leaving the EU" is a val

If both pro- and anti-Brexit are outraged, this should be a pretty clear indicator that it's not bias or manufactured editorializing. "Leaving the EU" is a valid political worldview/goal, whether you agree with it or not, however the specific "implementation" known as Brexit has proven to be a scam, because it's not an implementation at all: politicians manipulated and lied their way to victory, and once the referendum was over they made no effort to hide that their plan was "by the way, we have no plan". Because there was no responsible preliminary assessment of the cost and outcome of Brexit, let alone any roadmap, people on both side of the issue are realizing their politicians are navigating on sight, with no map or compass, during a process critical for the future of their country. A process they triggered. In that situation, isn't outrage warranted? As for Trump, well, it's not a UK thing. The whole world is laughing at the US.

pyroinferno 9y ago
The whole world can laugh at the US, but that's not going to solve any of their own problems.
saiya-jin 9y ago
if for nothing else, then for trump I hate all the usual news channels (and there are plenty of other reasons). in a same way i don't care what current celebrity messed up, I don't care about him. yes we get it, US voted ego-maniacal a*hole who has no clue about real politics to its lead for next 4 years. we all make mistakes. sad story, moving on, nothing to do there. can we please start ignoring him a bit? it seems to me controversy and popularity at all costs is what he seeks, so why please such a person?
ben_w 9y ago
Sadly, the Brexit outrange is different on each side: the Remain outrage is at perceived incompetence by the UK government, while the Leave outrage was directed first at Remainers and now at the EU. Given the tone of discourse, I am increasingly concerned about the possibility of a literal civil war in the UK — although not sufficiently concerned to think it unavoidable at this stage.

pyroinferno 9y ago

The whole world can laugh at the US, but that's not going to solve any of their own problems.

saiya-jin 9y ago

if for nothing else, then for trump I hate all the usual news channels (and there are plenty of other reasons). in a same way i don't care what current celebrity messed up, I don't care about him. yes we get it, US voted ego-maniacal a*hole who has no clue about real politics to its lead for next 4 years. we all make mistakes. sad story, moving on, nothing to do there. can we please start ignoring him a bit? it seems to me controversy and popularity at all costs is what he seeks, so why please such a person?

ben_w 9y ago

Sadly, the Brexit outrange is different on each side: the Remain outrage is at perceived incompetence by the UK government, while the Leave outrage was directed first at Remainers and now at the EU. Given the tone of discourse, I am increasingly concerned about the possibility of a literal civil war in the UK — although not sufficiently concerned to think it unavoidable at this stage.