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Off topic, but what caught my eye in the article was this: > Now Microsoft has announced that, alongside Outlook Express, Reader app and Reading list, Microsof

by srikz 9y ago

Off topic, but what caught my eye in the article was this: > Now Microsoft has announced that, alongside Outlook Express, Reader app and Reading list, Microsoft Paint For those who don't know Reader was introduced in Windows 8 as a PDF reader with annotation support (worked with Stylus in just black colour). I always hoped it would get more features and could become comparable to Preview on Mac. But sadly it was never updated for Windows 10. I still use it as I don't like using Edge for PDFs and Ebooks. Nothing wrong with it, but I hoard a lot of tabs and every time I open a PDF several tabs will open up. Would really like my browser and ebook / PDF viewer to be separate apps. /rant also RIP Paint. Gave me great joy as a kid and the constraints challenged me in fun ways to create 'interesting' art

mavhc 9y ago
Got to get people to use Edge somehow. Also try banning installers from adding pinned icons so users don't use Chrome, banning installers from setting defaults so users don't use Chrome, When you do open Chrome adding adverts for Edge to the screen (it's totally faster guys, come on). Banning browsers from the Windows Store, and thus Windows 10S.
- tedunangst 9y ago
  I'd be more sympathetic to poor google's plight if they didn't plaster banners telling me to switch to chrome all over the place.
- chadgeidel 9y ago
  "...banning installers from setting defaults..." goes way, way further than "... so users don't use Chrome". Installers silently replacing my default app is user-hostile and I encourage any steps my OS vendor takes to reduce the ability to do that. I had zero problems manually switching my default browser in Windows 10 to Chrome.
  - mavhc 9y ago
    It's more the way they did it, and continue to try to reset Edge to be default. I'm talking about my users who can't work the shift key, they just click whatever is pinned to the task bar. Same with how Mail is now pinned by default, even though everyone uses web mail. Any individual one of these wouldn't be too much of a concern, but together it seems suspicious.
WorldMaker 9y ago
On the flip side, I don't have as much trouble remembering if I left something open in Reader or IE11 as I did in Windows 8.1 with everything merged in Edge. It's an interesting trade-off, and while it does add more tabs to a place where I already keep too many tabs it is somewhat nice to be able to scroll through all of it in one place. Maybe some of the new tab management tools in Edge since the Creators Update help? (I'll be honest, I'm not yet using them as much as I thought I would.)

by srikz 9y ago

mavhc 9y ago

Got to get people to use Edge somehow. Also try banning installers from adding pinned icons so users don't use Chrome, banning installers from setting defaults so users don't use Chrome, When you do open Chrome adding adverts for Edge to the screen (it's totally faster guys, come on). Banning browsers from the Windows Store, and thus Windows 10S.

tedunangst 9y ago
I'd be more sympathetic to poor google's plight if they didn't plaster banners telling me to switch to chrome all over the place.
chadgeidel 9y ago
"...banning installers from setting defaults..." goes way, way further than "... so users don't use Chrome". Installers silently replacing my default app is user-hostile and I encourage any steps my OS vendor takes to reduce the ability to do that. I had zero problems manually switching my default browser in Windows 10 to Chrome.
- mavhc 9y ago
  It's more the way they did it, and continue to try to reset Edge to be default. I'm talking about my users who can't work the shift key, they just click whatever is pinned to the task bar. Same with how Mail is now pinned by default, even though everyone uses web mail. Any individual one of these wouldn't be too much of a concern, but together it seems suspicious.

WorldMaker 9y ago

On the flip side, I don't have as much trouble remembering if I left something open in Reader or IE11 as I did in Windows 8.1 with everything merged in Edge. It's an interesting trade-off, and while it does add more tabs to a place where I already keep too many tabs it is somewhat nice to be able to scroll through all of it in one place. Maybe some of the new tab management tools in Edge since the Creators Update help? (I'll be honest, I'm not yet using them as much as I thought I would.)