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Ah, yes. Actually Poland is the other bad child in EU... The European commission is currently threatening to remove Poland's voting rights due to the changes

by kpil 9y ago

Ah, yes. Actually Poland is the other bad child in EU... The European commission is currently threatening to remove Poland's voting rights due to the changes to the juridical system, but it will not happen as Hungary will veto. I think they are on their own cultural axis somehow.

reallydattrue 9y ago
Poland, bad child of the EU? Oh, I know what you are getting at. No, they are actually the last sanest in the western hemisphere. A country should do what it's best for itself and not have some supposed authority tell it what to do!
lawless123 9y ago
Poland is drifting towards Russia.
- Asooka 9y ago
  To clarify: they're drifting towards a political system reminiscent of Russia today, but they would never ally with Russia. The Soviet regime is still fresh in the zeitgeist's memory.
  - feborges 9y ago
    Unfortunately they just need a "bigger evil" to forget it and move into their arms.
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- codys 9y ago
  > Poland is very much its own cultural axis since last election Election results are largely a reaction to existing "cultural" state. I don't think it's accurate to consider them to be changing it (think "effect does not imply cause").
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    - qb45 9y ago
      > The thing is that PiS, Kukiz and TVP have normalized and brought into daily life in Poland extremely aggressive language and rhetoric. Same thing as with Trump. It's because literally nothing else works today against self-righteous leftists. You said in another comment that majority of Poles would rather leave EU than deal with the Islamic mess. AFAIK the most credible opposition to the current government is still PO, who were the ruling party before and literally in the last days of their term they signed an extremely unpopular obligation to accept forced resettlement of German Muslims, which the current government had to backpedal from, damaging the country's international credibility. The Polish government doesn't really have to do anything to stay in power indefinitely now. Until something changes on the political scene and a credible opposition arrives which isn't a puppet of Brussels, it's enough that they shake their fist at Merkel's social policies every now and then and they are literally guaranteed to win every election forever.
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by kpil 9y ago

reallydattrue 9y ago

Poland, bad child of the EU? Oh, I know what you are getting at. No, they are actually the last sanest in the western hemisphere. A country should do what it's best for itself and not have some supposed authority tell it what to do!

lawless123 9y ago

Poland is drifting towards Russia.

Asooka 9y ago
To clarify: they're drifting towards a political system reminiscent of Russia today, but they would never ally with Russia. The Soviet regime is still fresh in the zeitgeist's memory.
- feborges 9y ago
  Unfortunately they just need a "bigger evil" to forget it and move into their arms.
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codys 9y ago
> Poland is very much its own cultural axis since last election Election results are largely a reaction to existing "cultural" state. I don't think it's accurate to consider them to be changing it (think "effect does not imply cause").
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  - qb45 9y ago
    > The thing is that PiS, Kukiz and TVP have normalized and brought into daily life in Poland extremely aggressive language and rhetoric. Same thing as with Trump. It's because literally nothing else works today against self-righteous leftists. You said in another comment that majority of Poles would rather leave EU than deal with the Islamic mess. AFAIK the most credible opposition to the current government is still PO, who were the ruling party before and literally in the last days of their term they signed an extremely unpopular obligation to accept forced resettlement of German Muslims, which the current government had to backpedal from, damaging the country's international credibility. The Polish government doesn't really have to do anything to stay in power indefinitely now. Until something changes on the political scene and a credible opposition arrives which isn't a puppet of Brussels, it's enough that they shake their fist at Merkel's social policies every now and then and they are literally guaranteed to win every election forever.
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