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That's how the DMCA works. Remember the guy who gave a talk about Adobe's PDF creator which purported to produce "secure" documents (required a password) but th

That's how the DMCA works. Remember the guy who gave a talk about Adobe's PDF creator which purported to produce "secure" documents (required a password) but the feature was easily bypassed. Adobe had him arrested the day after he gave his talk. Link to a Wired article here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2001/07/russian-adobe-hacker-busted/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2001/07/russian-a... EDIT: I have a terrible memory-- thanks to the folks who replied to my comment with corrections.

emodendroket 9y ago
This story takes place in Hungary.
- tom_mellior 9y ago
  But inspired by the DMCA, the EU has also adopted anti-circumvention legislation. Though I'm dubious either would apply here, as this would be very difficult to spin as a copyright issue.
  - robin_reala 9y ago
    Has it? Can you link to it?
    - tom_mellior 9y ago
      General info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention#European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention#European_Un... More about the directive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive Actual text of the directive: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32001L0029 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:320... (see Chapter III, containing things like "Member States shall provide adequate legal protection against the circumvention of any effective technological measures" and then going on to define "effective" to mean "not necessarily effective") Some parts have been amended (for example, copyright duration has been expanded from 50 to 70 years after death), but I believe the anti-circumvention parts to be unchanged. I'm not sure how to find up-to-date codified versions of EU laws, though.
      - robin_reala 9y ago
        Thanks!
WillyOnWheels 9y ago
> Adobe had him arrested on the stage as he gave his talk. I was there! The FBI arrested him in a hallway, 1 day after his talk. Dmitry at first thought it was a joke put on by a Defcon prankster. During his talk, the panel moderator asked Dmitry to pause for a minute... and said "Would you mind saying 'Can you tell me where are the nuclear vessels in Alameda'?" Dmitry was confused by this request and said, in his Russian accent, "I do not know where the nuclear wessels are in Alameda?" The mostly American Trek-familiar audience had a good laugh, and Dmitry continued with his talk.
- mod 9y ago
  I'm confused by his request as well, I can't understand why he asked it. Any context?
  - Baeocystin 9y ago
    A scene in Star Trek IV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvkYTJYcYzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvkYTJYcYzY
  - cakedoggie 9y ago
    I think it is a Star Trek reference.
  - deleted 9y ago
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- underwater 9y ago
  Sounds kinda mean spirited to mock of the accent of someone who is presenting in their second language.
  - vertex-four 9y ago
    A lot of the amateur security scene is pretty mean-spirited, unfortunately for anyone trying to get into it.
  - uda 9y ago
atleta 9y ago
Yep, Hungarian story. And indeed the law in this case is not that bad at all. It doesn't penalize what the guy did. The sad part is of course the corporate & governmental reaction, the frightening part is that the police was so eager to jump in and overreact.
y_u_no_rust 9y ago
People from Adobe should have spent a few nights in jail for the security hell their thrust on people with flash

emodendroket 9y ago

This story takes place in Hungary.

tom_mellior 9y ago
But inspired by the DMCA, the EU has also adopted anti-circumvention legislation. Though I'm dubious either would apply here, as this would be very difficult to spin as a copyright issue.
- robin_reala 9y ago
  Has it? Can you link to it?
  - tom_mellior 9y ago
    General info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention#European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention#European_Un... More about the directive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive Actual text of the directive: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32001L0029 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:320... (see Chapter III, containing things like "Member States shall provide adequate legal protection against the circumvention of any effective technological measures" and then going on to define "effective" to mean "not necessarily effective") Some parts have been amended (for example, copyright duration has been expanded from 50 to 70 years after death), but I believe the anti-circumvention parts to be unchanged. I'm not sure how to find up-to-date codified versions of EU laws, though.
    - robin_reala 9y ago
      Thanks!

WillyOnWheels 9y ago

> Adobe had him arrested on the stage as he gave his talk. I was there! The FBI arrested him in a hallway, 1 day after his talk. Dmitry at first thought it was a joke put on by a Defcon prankster. During his talk, the panel moderator asked Dmitry to pause for a minute... and said "Would you mind saying 'Can you tell me where are the nuclear vessels in Alameda'?" Dmitry was confused by this request and said, in his Russian accent, "I do not know where the nuclear wessels are in Alameda?" The mostly American Trek-familiar audience had a good laugh, and Dmitry continued with his talk.

mod 9y ago
I'm confused by his request as well, I can't understand why he asked it. Any context?
- Baeocystin 9y ago
  A scene in Star Trek IV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvkYTJYcYzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvkYTJYcYzY
- cakedoggie 9y ago
  I think it is a Star Trek reference.
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
underwater 9y ago
Sounds kinda mean spirited to mock of the accent of someone who is presenting in their second language.
- vertex-four 9y ago
  A lot of the amateur security scene is pretty mean-spirited, unfortunately for anyone trying to get into it.
- uda 9y ago

atleta 9y ago

Yep, Hungarian story. And indeed the law in this case is not that bad at all. It doesn't penalize what the guy did. The sad part is of course the corporate & governmental reaction, the frightening part is that the police was so eager to jump in and overreact.

y_u_no_rust 9y ago

People from Adobe should have spent a few nights in jail for the security hell their thrust on people with flash