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>keep the clutch depressed when you're standing still(wears some bearings I don't remember the name of). It's the throwout bearing. Your father has a point, bu

>keep the clutch depressed when you're standing still(wears some bearings I don't remember the name of). It's the throwout bearing. Your father has a point, but I would rather keep the clutch in. Too much thinking involved putting it in neutral every time you stop.

pacaro 9y ago
Not putting it in neutral when stopped can contribute to failing your driving test in the U.K.
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  Aside from reducing wear on the throwout bearing, what is the purpose?
  - mirimir 9y ago
    Not having the car jerk forward if your foot slips off the clutch.
    - joncrocks 9y ago
      Which it may well do if you get rear-ended. One 'accident' can become two.
      - AstralStorm 9y ago
        Technically you're supposed to hold on brakes or a hand brake while idle, which makes both points moot. Especially important in clutchless cars or other auto transmissions. The brakes will hold a slipped clutch and a rear end. The clutch has an added benefit of you get rear ended and drop it - engine braking is a thing. Not good for the engine, potentially good for your forward bumper when you get reared.
        mirimir 9y ago
        > The clutch has an added benefit of you get rear ended and drop it - engine braking is a thing. There's no engine breaking when stopped, if the engine is running. I typically do keep my foot on the brake when stopped in traffic. And I do balance brakes, clutch and throttle when stopped on a hill. But except for stop-and-go traffic, or when getting ready to punch it, using the clutch and brakes together seems pointless.
  - cardiffspaceman 9y ago
    Safety. If clutch could fail mechanically while your foot was on it and the consequence of the failure would be the same as your foot slipping off, then it is safer to shift to neutral. I was taught this when I owned a 1980 VW Scirocco and my informant owned a 1980 Rabbit (Golf).
- taneq 9y ago
  Interesting. In Australia you're required to keep it in 1st with the clutch in while at red lights.
  - sk0g 9y ago
    For the P plate tests maybe, but that'd depend on the state too. The way you phrased it makes me think of cops at lights just going around and aggressively throwing gear sticks into 1st.
    - taneq 9y ago
      I was responding to a post which said: > Not putting it in neutral when stopped can contribute to failing your driving test in the U.K. So the context was specifically driving tests.
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Moru 9y ago
If you need to think for thar, you're not driving enough :)
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  >If you need to think for thar, you're not driving enough :) Aside from reducing the wear on the throwout bearing, what purpose is served by putting the car in neutral every time it is stopped in traffic?
  - hyperpape 9y ago
    It lets you take your foot off the clutch ;) In all seriousness, that's why I did it. My first stick was a truck, and even though it was small, it has a stiff clutch. You got tired of standing on it.
    - rhapsodic 9y ago
      > It lets you take your foot off the clutch ;) If that's what you like, go for it, but two posts seemed to imply that I'm doing something wrong by keeping the vehicle in gear with the clutch in while stopped in traffic, and I'd really like to know what that is. One post implied that UK law encourages or even requires that the vehicle be taken out of gear when it's stopped in traffic. I've never heard anything like that in the US. I've never encountered a clutch that took any noticeable effort for me to operate. And, considering all of the other bearings in a vehicle that are rotating under load constantly, I question the value of trying to save the throwout bearing a few extra seconds on each stop. So I would really like to know why I should shift to neutral when stopped in traffic. Should I do it when I'm waiting for a break in the traffic in the oncoming lane so I can turn across it? (A left turn in the US.) When I'm stopping at a stop sign, and then immediately going because there is no other traffic around? When I'm stopped for a few seconds in a stop-and-go traffic jam?
      - webignition 9y ago
        As a UK driver, I was taught to shift to neutral and apply the parking brake when stopped for long enough to do so. The reasoning given by my driving instructor was that this secures the vehicle and makes things just a little more safe for everyone. If I am stopped in traffic with my parking brake on and sometime lightly rear-ends me, my vehicle may not move at all. If my parking brake were not applied, the probability of my vehicle not moving at all drops significantly. If I am rear-ended without the parking brake applied such that my vehicle rear-ends someone in-front of me, I am partially responsible for the damage caused ahead due to my failure to secure my vehicle. This is only tangentially related to taking my foot of the clutch. I depress the clutch in order to apply the parking brake correctly. Once the parking brake is applied, I simply have no need to continue to depress the clutch. It takes me very little time to apply the parking brake and then release it and so I tend to do so when stopping for more than a second or two.

pacaro 9y ago

Not putting it in neutral when stopped can contribute to failing your driving test in the U.K.

rhapsodic 9y ago
Aside from reducing wear on the throwout bearing, what is the purpose?
- mirimir 9y ago
  Not having the car jerk forward if your foot slips off the clutch.
  - joncrocks 9y ago
    Which it may well do if you get rear-ended. One 'accident' can become two.
    - AstralStorm 9y ago
      Technically you're supposed to hold on brakes or a hand brake while idle, which makes both points moot. Especially important in clutchless cars or other auto transmissions. The brakes will hold a slipped clutch and a rear end. The clutch has an added benefit of you get rear ended and drop it - engine braking is a thing. Not good for the engine, potentially good for your forward bumper when you get reared.
      - mirimir 9y ago
        > The clutch has an added benefit of you get rear ended and drop it - engine braking is a thing. There's no engine breaking when stopped, if the engine is running. I typically do keep my foot on the brake when stopped in traffic. And I do balance brakes, clutch and throttle when stopped on a hill. But except for stop-and-go traffic, or when getting ready to punch it, using the clutch and brakes together seems pointless.
- cardiffspaceman 9y ago
  Safety. If clutch could fail mechanically while your foot was on it and the consequence of the failure would be the same as your foot slipping off, then it is safer to shift to neutral. I was taught this when I owned a 1980 VW Scirocco and my informant owned a 1980 Rabbit (Golf).
taneq 9y ago
Interesting. In Australia you're required to keep it in 1st with the clutch in while at red lights.
- sk0g 9y ago
  For the P plate tests maybe, but that'd depend on the state too. The way you phrased it makes me think of cops at lights just going around and aggressively throwing gear sticks into 1st.
  - taneq 9y ago
    I was responding to a post which said: > Not putting it in neutral when stopped can contribute to failing your driving test in the U.K. So the context was specifically driving tests.

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Moru 9y ago

If you need to think for thar, you're not driving enough :)

rhapsodic 9y ago
>If you need to think for thar, you're not driving enough :) Aside from reducing the wear on the throwout bearing, what purpose is served by putting the car in neutral every time it is stopped in traffic?
- hyperpape 9y ago
  It lets you take your foot off the clutch ;) In all seriousness, that's why I did it. My first stick was a truck, and even though it was small, it has a stiff clutch. You got tired of standing on it.
  - rhapsodic 9y ago
    > It lets you take your foot off the clutch ;) If that's what you like, go for it, but two posts seemed to imply that I'm doing something wrong by keeping the vehicle in gear with the clutch in while stopped in traffic, and I'd really like to know what that is. One post implied that UK law encourages or even requires that the vehicle be taken out of gear when it's stopped in traffic. I've never heard anything like that in the US. I've never encountered a clutch that took any noticeable effort for me to operate. And, considering all of the other bearings in a vehicle that are rotating under load constantly, I question the value of trying to save the throwout bearing a few extra seconds on each stop. So I would really like to know why I should shift to neutral when stopped in traffic. Should I do it when I'm waiting for a break in the traffic in the oncoming lane so I can turn across it? (A left turn in the US.) When I'm stopping at a stop sign, and then immediately going because there is no other traffic around? When I'm stopped for a few seconds in a stop-and-go traffic jam?
    - webignition 9y ago
      As a UK driver, I was taught to shift to neutral and apply the parking brake when stopped for long enough to do so. The reasoning given by my driving instructor was that this secures the vehicle and makes things just a little more safe for everyone. If I am stopped in traffic with my parking brake on and sometime lightly rear-ends me, my vehicle may not move at all. If my parking brake were not applied, the probability of my vehicle not moving at all drops significantly. If I am rear-ended without the parking brake applied such that my vehicle rear-ends someone in-front of me, I am partially responsible for the damage caused ahead due to my failure to secure my vehicle. This is only tangentially related to taking my foot of the clutch. I depress the clutch in order to apply the parking brake correctly. Once the parking brake is applied, I simply have no need to continue to depress the clutch. It takes me very little time to apply the parking brake and then release it and so I tend to do so when stopping for more than a second or two.