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You haven't had many friendships with diverse income levels.

nevi-me 9y ago
This. It's not even about whether one can afford things, but the unfairness of splitting the bill. I have an anecdote where a friend of mine had 2 glasses of juice, while her friends were drinking wine and all sorts. When her part of the bill was $4 she ended up paying $50 (currency approxm, but you get the point). Even with similar incomes, as young adults in our mid-20's, working hard for our money, we'd like more control over what we end up paying for.
- detaro 9y ago
  I understood mjevans as saying that they thus should have not split the bill evenly (and their friends should not insist on it), for exactly those reasons?
treehau5 9y ago
This problem is even worse when it's not even necessarily income levels that is the problem, but just different values around money & spending. If you have the same income level, but find it outrageous to spend x on y, you just get viewed as a "cheap ass" It's not my fault I don't want to pay 13 dollars+tip for a cocktail when I can make 20 of them at home for the same price.
- cakedoggie 9y ago
  > It's not my fault I don't want to pay 13 dollars+tip for a cocktail when I can make 20 of them at home for the same price. Oh, certainly not your fault, but you might be better staying at home. Why agree to go out somewhere with your friends if you are just going to drink water?
  - treehau5 9y ago
    > Why agree to go out somewhere with your friends if you are just going to drink water? What do you think I'm an amateur? Club soda with lime, in a highball glass.
- erdojo 9y ago
  It is your fault if you go out to bars that serve $13 drinks instead of staying home and making 20 of them. We all have choices.
- bsder 9y ago
  > It's not my fault I don't want to pay 13 dollars+tip for a cocktail when I can make 20 of them at home for the same price. Then stay the hell home, please. Everybody will be happier. When I organize something like this either A) I think the cocktails/beer/food/etc. is genuinely amazing and if you don't then you should stay home or B) I'm more interested in the company and I think the ambiance is acceptable.
- poslathian 9y ago
  Most of that drink's $13 is paying for the venue in which you consumed it. Frankly, I also dont really get why it's so much more fun to drink with friends in expensive and crowded spaces than our own spaces, but I appreciate that's a minority view.

This. It's not even about whether one can afford things, but the unfairness of splitting the bill. I have an anecdote where a friend of mine had 2 glasses of juice, while her friends were drinking wine and all sorts. When her part of the bill was $4 she ended up paying $50 (currency approxm, but you get the point). Even with similar incomes, as young adults in our mid-20's, working hard for our money, we'd like more control over what we end up paying for.

detaro 9y ago
I understood mjevans as saying that they thus should have not split the bill evenly (and their friends should not insist on it), for exactly those reasons?

treehau5 9y ago

This problem is even worse when it's not even necessarily income levels that is the problem, but just different values around money & spending. If you have the same income level, but find it outrageous to spend x on y, you just get viewed as a "cheap ass" It's not my fault I don't want to pay 13 dollars+tip for a cocktail when I can make 20 of them at home for the same price.

cakedoggie 9y ago
> It's not my fault I don't want to pay 13 dollars+tip for a cocktail when I can make 20 of them at home for the same price. Oh, certainly not your fault, but you might be better staying at home. Why agree to go out somewhere with your friends if you are just going to drink water?
- treehau5 9y ago
  > Why agree to go out somewhere with your friends if you are just going to drink water? What do you think I'm an amateur? Club soda with lime, in a highball glass.
erdojo 9y ago
It is your fault if you go out to bars that serve $13 drinks instead of staying home and making 20 of them. We all have choices.
bsder 9y ago
> It's not my fault I don't want to pay 13 dollars+tip for a cocktail when I can make 20 of them at home for the same price. Then stay the hell home, please. Everybody will be happier. When I organize something like this either A) I think the cocktails/beer/food/etc. is genuinely amazing and if you don't then you should stay home or B) I'm more interested in the company and I think the ambiance is acceptable.
poslathian 9y ago
Most of that drink's $13 is paying for the venue in which you consumed it. Frankly, I also dont really get why it's so much more fun to drink with friends in expensive and crowded spaces than our own spaces, but I appreciate that's a minority view.