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As a Norwegian that aspires to eventually live off investments and passive income, you do have some salient points. We could probably have a significantly cheap
by marvin 9y ago
As a Norwegian that aspires to eventually live off investments and passive income, you do have some salient points. We could probably have a significantly cheaper public sector; hiring for the public sector during the last decade has been ridiculous. Counter-cyclical spending during times of economic crisis should not be performed by hiring people for permanent positions with some of the strongest labor protections in the world; you'll never get rid of the expense when the cycle turns back.
And don't get me started on the wealth tax; it's a good and probably necessary idea in the long-term, but here it's both (1) too high; at 1% p.a. it's in effect an extra 25% capital gains tax on top of the 29% which is taxed directly, and (2) assets that "everyone" own (real estate) are only taxed at 25% of their market value. And debt is deducted at its full value! Buy a million dollar home borrowing $250k, and you pay no wealth tax at all! So you are allowed to be a real estate millionaire (and receive tax-free income on rent from your primary residence), but not a stock fund millionaire.
To everyone's big surprise, real estate has appreciated much faster than other assets (20% in Oslo last year), mostly evening out the post-tax advantage over other assets.
The tax on investment income was recently reduced by three percentage points to make the system more similar to other parts of the EEC, but a multiplicative factor was introduced when calculating the "taxable value" for stocks and funds, in effect increasing the tax by two percentage points. I never quite understood this move.
I am proud of our universal healthcare system and our welfare system -- in effect it's a means-tested basic income system; no one starves or freezes -- but some tax policies feel really oppressive if you are trying to do something ambitious.
- charlesdm 9y agoVery nice example, and you can clearly see how market distorting the wealth tax is. In a post below you wrote it triggers from $175k, but the value of a property is only counted at 25%. Purchasing property is essentially a tax avoidance mechanism to avoid the wealth tax on cash, and in turn leads to a massive property bubble (probably because the wealth tax cap is relatively low, and it hits a lot of people / families). Even if you don't really want to invest in property, it makes sense to do so, because otherwise you'd just be paying wealth tax. Add to that that you can probably lever it up easily (e.g. buy something with 20% down) and.. you get a recipe for disaster at some point.
- marvin 9y agoYup, this sums it up nicely.