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No one cares about China or the people of Xinjiang. China probably cares more about them than anyone else. Human rights is just an opportunity for many to gran

by throw2016 9y ago

No one cares about China or the people of Xinjiang. China probably cares more about them than anyone else. Human rights is just an opportunity for many to grandstand and make smug declarations while making the flimsiest of excuses with a straight face and hand waving away their own government's actions. Unfortunately so much water has flown under the bridge this is just not credible. What happened to the concern for all the refugees from Syria now, everyone is fighting to keep them away yet are happy to make sanctimonious statements feigning concern to justify destructive action that decimates entire countries and destroys millions of lives driven entirely by political and economic agendas. This kind of odious hypocrisy is just not tenable anymore.

gipp 9y ago
So, what, ethical government is a nonsensical idea and we all just accept autocracy around the world? You're also putting a lot of words in people's mouths. Many or most of folks who have a problem with things like this are also the people concerned with their own government's actions abroad, and are _not_ those "fighting to keep [Syrian refugees] away". Everything can be made to look like hypocrisy if you just freely mix and match opinions of completely different people.
astebbin 9y ago
Besides being (in my opinion) incorrect on many levels - for instance, Western countries continue to rescue and provide for NEMA refugees, if not granting them residency - the parent comment is a great example of "Whataboutism," a classic logical fallacy and Soviet propaganda technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
mrkrabo 9y ago
>What happened to the concern for all the refugees from Syria now, everyone is fighting to keep them away It was the media. I'm sure if people had voted to say whether they wanted the refugees in Europe or not, the "no" would've won. And as soon as refugees stopped giving them ratings, the media stopped talking about them, and that was it.

gipp 9y ago

So, what, ethical government is a nonsensical idea and we all just accept autocracy around the world? You're also putting a lot of words in people's mouths. Many or most of folks who have a problem with things like this are also the people concerned with their own government's actions abroad, and are _not_ those "fighting to keep [Syrian refugees] away". Everything can be made to look like hypocrisy if you just freely mix and match opinions of completely different people.

astebbin 9y ago

Besides being (in my opinion) incorrect on many levels - for instance, Western countries continue to rescue and provide for NEMA refugees, if not granting them residency - the parent comment is a great example of "Whataboutism," a classic logical fallacy and Soviet propaganda technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

mrkrabo 9y ago

>What happened to the concern for all the refugees from Syria now, everyone is fighting to keep them away It was the media. I'm sure if people had voted to say whether they wanted the refugees in Europe or not, the "no" would've won. And as soon as refugees stopped giving them ratings, the media stopped talking about them, and that was it.