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> You don't convince people through forced lectures, you convince people by engaging with them on an even level discourse to reach a common understanding of the

> You don't convince people through forced lectures, you convince people by engaging with them on an even level discourse to reach a common understanding of the issue at hand. Is that how Trump became presidents? Is he convincing by doing even level discourse? Bullshit. We are still all humans after all and so believe what we want to believe no matter the truth.

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freeflight 9y ago
If you really want to go there, we can do that, sure. Imho one of the reasons why Trump won is because nobody took him seriously, democrats underestimated him that's why they focused on him as the potential competition, they figured he would be an easy target to tear down. Didn't exactly play out that way did it? That's why understanding is important, otherwise reality will just come crashing down on you and you won't even understand why it happened. Just like many democrats are now in denial and increasingly behaving equally childish as Trump, blaming everything and everybody for Trumps win except for themselves and their lackluster candidate. It's gotten to a point where even when Trump does something sensible, like cutting CIA funding for "moderate rebels" in Syria, he's still vilified as having done it "for Russia" or whatever other reason one could come up with for the sole sake of not saying a single positive thing about the current US administration, which is just childish.
- DelightOne 9y ago
  My point i wrote already was that he did not win with even-level discourse. Contrary to what you asserted is it not a requirement to convince somebody to have an even-level discourse with him. So it is fair to assume our target group behaves similarly cause we are all human. If you look around you you may find lots more examples of this.

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> You don't convince people through forced lectures, you convince people by engaging with them on an even level discourse to reach a common understanding of the

by DelightOne 9y ago

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freeflight 9y ago
If you really want to go there, we can do that, sure. Imho one of the reasons why Trump won is because nobody took him seriously, democrats underestimated him that's why they focused on him as the potential competition, they figured he would be an easy target to tear down. Didn't exactly play out that way did it? That's why understanding is important, otherwise reality will just come crashing down on you and you won't even understand why it happened. Just like many democrats are now in denial and increasingly behaving equally childish as Trump, blaming everything and everybody for Trumps win except for themselves and their lackluster candidate. It's gotten to a point where even when Trump does something sensible, like cutting CIA funding for "moderate rebels" in Syria, he's still vilified as having done it "for Russia" or whatever other reason one could come up with for the sole sake of not saying a single positive thing about the current US administration, which is just childish.
- DelightOne 9y ago
  My point i wrote already was that he did not win with even-level discourse. Contrary to what you asserted is it not a requirement to convince somebody to have an even-level discourse with him. So it is fair to assume our target group behaves similarly cause we are all human. If you look around you you may find lots more examples of this.