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> Real actions are already underground, extremism only uses public places to recruit masses to get better selection and financial support. And it's exactly the

> Real actions are already underground, extremism only uses public places to recruit masses to get better selection and financial support. And it's exactly these public places where their ideas need to be opposed. If you drive them, and their ideas, deeper into the underground there will be no one there to oppose any of their ideas, it will be yet another echo-chamber driven by a victim complex. > I bet you're living in first-world country saying that you we should just go and rationally talk to extremists. What else you want to do with them through the Internet? Would you rather censor them and their ideas away like they don't exist, exactly like they try to censor opposing views away in their territories of influence? How does that make us any better than them? It doesn't, it's hypocrisy at it's finest and exactly the kind of hypocrisy which also drives recruitment. It's a giant crying shame on our "western culture" which supposedly values "freedom" so much.

wruza 9y ago
Yes, you cut human resources and organization can't grow or even retain its size. >What else you want to do with them through the Internet? Would you rather censor them and their ideas away like they don't exist, exactly like they try to censor opposing views away in their territories of influence? Isolate and make them unsure. Growth and spread is a thing that feeds their influence. Look, they produce nothing, they invent nothing. The only thing they do is growth. It is obviously just a cancer of idea. The word "extremism" already has a hint in it. >How does that make us any better than them? How is mushroom killing a bacteria better than bacteria? I don't know. It's just a way mushrooms are, maybe. Hypocritical bastards! If seriously, I don't know why you're asking who's better/more right, because there is no absolute right. It is them or you, as it always was. Negotiation can't be done with your natural enemy. I'm more from semi-eastern culture, if that matters.
g00gler 9y ago
> If you drive them, and their ideas, deeper into the underground there will be no one there to oppose any of their ideas, it will be yet another echo-chamber driven by a victim complex. Exactly. This is the same argument I pose with my neoliberal friend about Ann Coulter, Alex Jones, David Duke, etc. "Think of the children!", I cry. If society refuses to acknowledge ideas that they find offensive the ideas don't go away, ignorance just goes unanswered. Following this line of thinking, maybe it would be more useful for YouTube to recommend more moderate sermons/lectures to people who are looking for extremist videos. Google could go a step further and insert ads for mental health when people view content like this. The public could also take this upon itself, especially in countries like the UK and Canada, purchasing ads for national mental health services targeting these users.

wruza 9y ago

Yes, you cut human resources and organization can't grow or even retain its size. >What else you want to do with them through the Internet? Would you rather censor them and their ideas away like they don't exist, exactly like they try to censor opposing views away in their territories of influence? Isolate and make them unsure. Growth and spread is a thing that feeds their influence. Look, they produce nothing, they invent nothing. The only thing they do is growth. It is obviously just a cancer of idea. The word "extremism" already has a hint in it. >How does that make us any better than them? How is mushroom killing a bacteria better than bacteria? I don't know. It's just a way mushrooms are, maybe. Hypocritical bastards! If seriously, I don't know why you're asking who's better/more right, because there is no absolute right. It is them or you, as it always was. Negotiation can't be done with your natural enemy. I'm more from semi-eastern culture, if that matters.

g00gler 9y ago

> If you drive them, and their ideas, deeper into the underground there will be no one there to oppose any of their ideas, it will be yet another echo-chamber driven by a victim complex. Exactly. This is the same argument I pose with my neoliberal friend about Ann Coulter, Alex Jones, David Duke, etc. "Think of the children!", I cry. If society refuses to acknowledge ideas that they find offensive the ideas don't go away, ignorance just goes unanswered. Following this line of thinking, maybe it would be more useful for YouTube to recommend more moderate sermons/lectures to people who are looking for extremist videos. Google could go a step further and insert ads for mental health when people view content like this. The public could also take this upon itself, especially in countries like the UK and Canada, purchasing ads for national mental health services targeting these users.