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I get your point - we've slowly, and sometimes quite quickly, seen some of our rights eroded as a result of policies that are advertised as being anti-terrorist

I get your point - we've slowly, and sometimes quite quickly, seen some of our rights eroded as a result of policies that are advertised as being anti-terrorist. Speaking directly to this policy, though, isn't your man premise that blow oneself up is bad enough in a vacuum unsupported? Many of these videos are crafted by the terrorist organizations as a recruitment tool. Wouldn't th see organizations not create them if they didn't wield at least some power to actually recruit or radicalize? I don't think arguing that line is consistent, even if I agree that we shouldn't censor these videos.

Retric 9y ago
99.9999% of people don't blow themselves up. It's not a significant issue because it's such a bad idea. Don't get me wrong lightning strikes are also a non issue, but that does not make swimming in a thunder storm a good idea. Basic airport screening is useful, but you very quickly hit diminishing returns.
megous 9y ago
There are also videos made by murderous dictatorial regimes as a recruitment tool. YouTube has no problem with that. There are videos made by US to get more cannon fodder for their wars which also killed millions of innocent people over the decades. Where do you stop? I'm fine with stopping recruitment videos for war, but at least do it on principle as against the war, not just against a few particular organizations. It's ridiculous otherwise. It's just one belligerent suppressing the other one in a conflict. Nothing else.
- electriclove 9y ago
  IMO, there is a difference between war and attacks on civilians.
  - philipov 9y ago
    A hypothetical difference, or a practical difference? Can you give me an example of a war that managed to avoid attacks on civilians?
  - mistermann 9y ago
    One difference is, war kills far more civilians, typically by several orders of magnitude.
nerdponx 9y ago
I get your point - we've slowly, and sometimes quite quickly, seen some of our rights eroded as a result of policies that are advertised as being anti-terrorist. Honestly when I first heard of ISIS I was pretty sure it was going to turn out to be some kind of "false alarm" excuse to continue war in the Middle East and continue curbing rights in the US. Somewhat like how Al Qaeda didn't really exist until the US started telling ghost stories about them, which turned into free recruiting. What are the chances that the CIA is behind ISIS?
- mistermann 9y ago
  The fact that there always seems to be some new mortally dangerous enemy (who comes along just when it became unavoidably obvious the previous one was hardly a threat) makes one a little suspicious of the whole thing.

Retric 9y ago

99.9999% of people don't blow themselves up. It's not a significant issue because it's such a bad idea. Don't get me wrong lightning strikes are also a non issue, but that does not make swimming in a thunder storm a good idea. Basic airport screening is useful, but you very quickly hit diminishing returns.

megous 9y ago

There are also videos made by murderous dictatorial regimes as a recruitment tool. YouTube has no problem with that. There are videos made by US to get more cannon fodder for their wars which also killed millions of innocent people over the decades. Where do you stop? I'm fine with stopping recruitment videos for war, but at least do it on principle as against the war, not just against a few particular organizations. It's ridiculous otherwise. It's just one belligerent suppressing the other one in a conflict. Nothing else.

electriclove 9y ago
IMO, there is a difference between war and attacks on civilians.
- philipov 9y ago
  A hypothetical difference, or a practical difference? Can you give me an example of a war that managed to avoid attacks on civilians?
- mistermann 9y ago
  One difference is, war kills far more civilians, typically by several orders of magnitude.

nerdponx 9y ago

I get your point - we've slowly, and sometimes quite quickly, seen some of our rights eroded as a result of policies that are advertised as being anti-terrorist. Honestly when I first heard of ISIS I was pretty sure it was going to turn out to be some kind of "false alarm" excuse to continue war in the Middle East and continue curbing rights in the US. Somewhat like how Al Qaeda didn't really exist until the US started telling ghost stories about them, which turned into free recruiting. What are the chances that the CIA is behind ISIS?

mistermann 9y ago
The fact that there always seems to be some new mortally dangerous enemy (who comes along just when it became unavoidably obvious the previous one was hardly a threat) makes one a little suspicious of the whole thing.