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I rather we invest in PPI rather than refresh rate. Not that the two are mutually exclusive, but as I look at my use cases, most of the time the screen is stati

I rather we invest in PPI rather than refresh rate. Not that the two are mutually exclusive, but as I look at my use cases, most of the time the screen is static, so a higher refresh rate would be wasted, whereas higher PPI screens improve readability and legibility (when they work on Windows).

fsloth 9y ago
You mean 4k on a desktop is not dense enough for you?
- 80211 9y ago
  This isn't 4K or even 4x HD. There's not enough vertical resolution. Consumer 4K is 2160 vertical pixels. This is only 1600. If you write software for a living, vertical space is precious!
- jsjohnst 9y ago
  No, it's not. Because a 4K "retina" (aka HiDPI) display is only 1080P. 1080P on anything larger than a 24" screen is a non-starter for me (thanks but no thanks to huge icons on screen). I'd ideally like a 27-30" 8k "retina" monitor (aka 4K useable) with DCI-P3 color gamut. Refresh rate I'm ok with 60hz, but wouldn't object to higher obviously.
- LeoNatan25 9y ago
  Not for a 27” panel and above. 5120x2880/3200 for a 27” is good, but for larger panels (29”, 30”, 32”), an even higher logical resolution is needed. That’s for 2x scaling, of course, but I don’t think fraction scaling creates a good end result, unless everything is vector, which decidedly, very little is.
- zanny 9y ago
  4k / 28" is 157 PPI, which is only indistinguishable at around 2 feet view distance on average. Better eyesight puts that distance further back. 8k at 28" is "retina" at just under a foot. So depending on how far you sit from your screen PPI can matter more or less to you, but when we finally get 8k panels we should also finally be getting people in retina range most of the time. 8k / 120+hz is the holy grail for me.
  - jamiek88 9y ago
    I can see Apple bringing 120hz to the iMac, so 5k at 120hz would be getting close. I wish they sold screens still.
    - LeoNatan25 9y ago
      Apple is still using panels by Dell, as far as I know. So that 5K Dell display is the same panel that is used in their iMac range.
      - jamiek88 9y ago
        They are LG panels ultimately. There were some Samsung panels previously but since 2015 they have all been LG.
    - kalleboo 9y ago
      Luckily they're bringing back a display with the new Mac Pro next year.

fsloth 9y ago

You mean 4k on a desktop is not dense enough for you?

80211 9y ago
This isn't 4K or even 4x HD. There's not enough vertical resolution. Consumer 4K is 2160 vertical pixels. This is only 1600. If you write software for a living, vertical space is precious!
jsjohnst 9y ago
No, it's not. Because a 4K "retina" (aka HiDPI) display is only 1080P. 1080P on anything larger than a 24" screen is a non-starter for me (thanks but no thanks to huge icons on screen). I'd ideally like a 27-30" 8k "retina" monitor (aka 4K useable) with DCI-P3 color gamut. Refresh rate I'm ok with 60hz, but wouldn't object to higher obviously.
LeoNatan25 9y ago
Not for a 27” panel and above. 5120x2880/3200 for a 27” is good, but for larger panels (29”, 30”, 32”), an even higher logical resolution is needed. That’s for 2x scaling, of course, but I don’t think fraction scaling creates a good end result, unless everything is vector, which decidedly, very little is.
zanny 9y ago
4k / 28" is 157 PPI, which is only indistinguishable at around 2 feet view distance on average. Better eyesight puts that distance further back. 8k at 28" is "retina" at just under a foot. So depending on how far you sit from your screen PPI can matter more or less to you, but when we finally get 8k panels we should also finally be getting people in retina range most of the time. 8k / 120+hz is the holy grail for me.
- jamiek88 9y ago
  I can see Apple bringing 120hz to the iMac, so 5k at 120hz would be getting close. I wish they sold screens still.
  - LeoNatan25 9y ago
    Apple is still using panels by Dell, as far as I know. So that 5K Dell display is the same panel that is used in their iMac range.
    - jamiek88 9y ago
      They are LG panels ultimately. There were some Samsung panels previously but since 2015 they have all been LG.
  - kalleboo 9y ago
    Luckily they're bringing back a display with the new Mac Pro next year.