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Why oh why do fans of agile programming and dynamic languages always hide behind snarky epiphets from other people? This imbalance is, in my mind, the greatest
by fefe23 9y ago
Why oh why do fans of agile programming and dynamic languages always hide behind snarky epiphets from other people?
This imbalance is, in my mind, the greatest reason why people still prefer C and Java over Clojure and other hipster languages. The feeling that those people must be overcompensating for something, just look at how they feel the need to talk down on others all the time.
In the left corner, you see snarky hipsters complaining about how all security problems would go away if only everybody stopped using C, and if people dropped their methods and adopted agile / XP / scrum / other fad of the week.
In the right corner, you see C programmers writing code in the waterfall model.
I'm much more attracted to the right corner. Not because C or waterfall are great. Because of the (to me) juvenile unprofessional behavior of the people in the left corner. You see, I'm a programmer. I'm attracted to people who are programming. Not to people who are telling others how not to lead their lives, while appearing to produce scant noteworthy code themselves.
Compounding this is that OP is leaving a link to his own blog here. And this blog post is basically "here are some things other people said that I happen to agree with". I learned nothing.
BTW: The very same behavior makes me think highly of postgresql and less highly of nosql databases. My instinct tells me to trust people who don't feel the need to trash-talk others.
EDIT: to stay with the theme of the post: I always liked "Don't learn the tricks of the trade. Learn the trade."
EDIT: To win me over, don't tell me my stuff is bad. Show me that your stuff is good.
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- icebraining 9y agoThe only quote in there regarding dynamic vs static is one disparaging dynamic languages. Also, the complaint about C is about it being too weakly typed, not about it being statically typed.
- tome 9y agoI think fefe23 may have been referring to these responses: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14825901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14825901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14826072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14826072
- icebraining 9y agoI don't think so, as none of those used "snarky epiphets from other people".
- tome 9y agofefe23 said "hide behind snarky epiphets from other people" (my emphasis) suggesting that the criticism of dynamic programming was discounted because it was snarky.
- mcphage 9y agoThat's not what "hiding behind X" means. It means to use X to distract people from yourself / your own positions. So here hiding behind scary epithets would mean using snarky epithets to counter criticism of dynamic languages.
- tome 9y agoI know that's not what it means, but in the absence of knowledge regarding whether fefe23 is a native English speaker I think the interpretation I gave of his/her comment was a reasonable one.