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What is the difference between creation and generation? What is the difference between me selecting the specific frame made by a generative algorithm and photo

by ejfox 9y ago

What is the difference between creation and generation? What is the difference between me selecting the specific frame made by a generative algorithm and photographer picking a specific moment in time to capture a frame? What's the difference between me using a generative algorithm and Michelangelo using assistants to paint the Sistine Chapel?

TheOtherHobbes 9y ago
Creation is a goal that admits occasional accidents. Generation is a series of unfortunate accidents in search of something that might pass for a goal.
pawy 9y ago
Dedicating our life to find a meaning trough work. Get interested in some artists and what they have achieved. A humble human being would never call it self an artist. That's the first mistake, and it's philosophical rather than technical. I would say the tool it self is rather an piece of art. Not what it creates.
- ejfox 9y ago
  I am really curious to hear your responses to the questions I raised
pawy 9y ago
"What is the difference between creation and generation?" -> that one has already been answered under. "What is the difference between me selecting the specific frame made by a generative algorithm and photographer picking a specific moment in time to capture a frame?" -> he captures life and tries to create a embodiment of something that already has a meaning for everybody. He can have multiple ways of underlining different aspects of the same thing. He has total control over How and Why. It is not only technical but it also communicates something in very different ways depending on the subject and how he took the picture. "What's the difference between me using a generative algorithm and Michelangelo using assistants to paint the Sistine Chapel?" -> these are people not machine.
goldfeld 9y ago
Art is work, as the parent said. It's in the word, art is human sweat and thought within a certain technique framework (such as an aesthetic).

by ejfox 9y ago

TheOtherHobbes 9y ago

Creation is a goal that admits occasional accidents. Generation is a series of unfortunate accidents in search of something that might pass for a goal.

pawy 9y ago

Dedicating our life to find a meaning trough work. Get interested in some artists and what they have achieved. A humble human being would never call it self an artist. That's the first mistake, and it's philosophical rather than technical. I would say the tool it self is rather an piece of art. Not what it creates.

ejfox 9y ago
I am really curious to hear your responses to the questions I raised

pawy 9y ago

"What is the difference between creation and generation?" -> that one has already been answered under. "What is the difference between me selecting the specific frame made by a generative algorithm and photographer picking a specific moment in time to capture a frame?" -> he captures life and tries to create a embodiment of something that already has a meaning for everybody. He can have multiple ways of underlining different aspects of the same thing. He has total control over How and Why. It is not only technical but it also communicates something in very different ways depending on the subject and how he took the picture. "What's the difference between me using a generative algorithm and Michelangelo using assistants to paint the Sistine Chapel?" -> these are people not machine.

goldfeld 9y ago

Art is work, as the parent said. It's in the word, art is human sweat and thought within a certain technique framework (such as an aesthetic).