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I'm pretty sure I said this last time, too - don't buy hardware that doesn't work with your software. Do some due diligence on the shit you buy.

eropple 9y ago
Or don't care and use something else. I now run a literally problem-free Hackintosh dual-boot and life is great. With hardware better supported on a literal hack system than on Linux. (Didn't buy hardware intending for a Hackintosh, either; I just happen to tend towards Gigabyte motherboards and Intel processors and everything shook out great.) Linux isn't "my software", so why would I buy hardware for it--especially when nothing else has a problem with it? Your OS is not special no matter how much you yell at people on HN about it. Your OS doesn't matter to anyone else no matter how much you yell at people on HN about it. Attempting to put the onus of "due diligence" on the people you want to do something is just straight-up nuts--and, tbh, the same rhetorical evasion that's come out of the Linux zealot camp for decades now because it's easier than acknowledging problems and that the things you like aren't universally appropriate. And the thing is, you actively are providing great rhetorical reasons to not listen to people who do have a sense of user empathy--which you lack, it seems, as you would rather browbeat people into using it than understand why they don't and maybe make it a better value proposition--and want people to use Linux. You're literally, precisely acting against the interests you purport to hold! When you're in a hole, just...stop digging, dude.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  I'm not in any kind of hole here. Maybe you're projecting your experiences with other Linux users on me. I'm clearly explaining my viewpoint and reasonably giving answers to critiques of it. If Linux is not for you, then so be it, but I disagree with your reasons and I am free to express that. Re-reading this discussion only shows one of us being unreasonable and abrasive. I don't care to engage you any further unless you change your attitude.
  - eropple 9y ago
    Every time you post about desktop Linux here the starting point is "people should be using this because I like it." Criticisms are deflected with "well, don't do that"--guess what? People are gonna "do that" because they do it with literally everything else. "Do some due diligence on this thing I want you to use" is as unreasonable as it gets, champ. But it's me being unreasonable. And abusive--I laughed aloud, dude.
cwyers 9y ago
Okay, but when did Linux become my software?
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  The implication here is that should you find the advantages of Linux compelling, you would factor that into your consumer choices. "I bought a hundred gallons of desiel but I couldn't get it working in my sedan so I'll just stick to the truck"
  - concede_pluto 9y ago
    And if I don't buy a Fiat 500e because it only has a range of 84 miles, do you think "you can go different places!" would be a persuasive argument?

eropple 9y ago

Or don't care and use something else. I now run a literally problem-free Hackintosh dual-boot and life is great. With hardware better supported on a literal hack system than on Linux. (Didn't buy hardware intending for a Hackintosh, either; I just happen to tend towards Gigabyte motherboards and Intel processors and everything shook out great.) Linux isn't "my software", so why would I buy hardware for it--especially when nothing else has a problem with it? Your OS is not special no matter how much you yell at people on HN about it. Your OS doesn't matter to anyone else no matter how much you yell at people on HN about it. Attempting to put the onus of "due diligence" on the people you want to do something is just straight-up nuts--and, tbh, the same rhetorical evasion that's come out of the Linux zealot camp for decades now because it's easier than acknowledging problems and that the things you like aren't universally appropriate. And the thing is, you actively are providing great rhetorical reasons to not listen to people who do have a sense of user empathy--which you lack, it seems, as you would rather browbeat people into using it than understand why they don't and maybe make it a better value proposition--and want people to use Linux. You're literally, precisely acting against the interests you purport to hold! When you're in a hole, just...stop digging, dude.

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
I'm not in any kind of hole here. Maybe you're projecting your experiences with other Linux users on me. I'm clearly explaining my viewpoint and reasonably giving answers to critiques of it. If Linux is not for you, then so be it, but I disagree with your reasons and I am free to express that. Re-reading this discussion only shows one of us being unreasonable and abrasive. I don't care to engage you any further unless you change your attitude.
- eropple 9y ago
  Every time you post about desktop Linux here the starting point is "people should be using this because I like it." Criticisms are deflected with "well, don't do that"--guess what? People are gonna "do that" because they do it with literally everything else. "Do some due diligence on this thing I want you to use" is as unreasonable as it gets, champ. But it's me being unreasonable. And abusive--I laughed aloud, dude.

cwyers 9y ago

Okay, but when did Linux become my software?

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
The implication here is that should you find the advantages of Linux compelling, you would factor that into your consumer choices. "I bought a hundred gallons of desiel but I couldn't get it working in my sedan so I'll just stick to the truck"
- concede_pluto 9y ago
  And if I don't buy a Fiat 500e because it only has a range of 84 miles, do you think "you can go different places!" would be a persuasive argument?