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> If someone uses a portion of your code you don't have copyright over, Then it's not my code, and I don't have rights on it, do I?

by adekok 9y ago

jhanschoo 9y ago
I hope parent commentor clarifies this: do you still get to claim a fork of your contributed code as copyrighted to yourself? The standing problem goes both ways; if you distributed your fork but you had licensed it from the FSF, won't you lack standing from unauthorized use?
- BeetleB 9y ago
  >do you still get to claim a fork of your contributed code as copyrighted to yourself? I believe so - as long as you license it with the GPL.
- adekok 9y ago
  Yes, you lack standing. The FSF owns copyright.
  - jhanschoo 9y ago
    Is it legally possible to share copyright?
- deleted 9y ago
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- mikegerwitz 9y ago
  > I hope parent commentor clarifies this I can't edit my comment; sorry. I meant "your project's code".
_jal 9y ago
So you concede that it doesn't matter if you wrote over half the code? If only there were a mechanism for reaching that other code, so you could defend it... Oh, wait. Perhaps if those contributors assigned their copyright to you under a very permissive contract...
- adekok 9y ago
  I don't understand the confusion here. It's not rocket science. > So you concede that it doesn't matter if you wrote over half the code? There's just no way you can conclude that from my comments. I explicitely said I could enforce copyright on my code, even if it's only half of the project. Again, the comment I was replying to said this: > If someone uses a portion of your code you don't have copyright over, Does no one see the logical contradiction in that statement? YOUR code that YOU DON'T OWN. Uh... then it's not MY CODE, is it? Is that really that hard to figure out? I'll explain using simple examples, as people apparently aren't getting it. * If a third-party contributor to my project re-uses his own code elsewhere, I don't care. It's his code. * If someone violates copyright on a third-party contributors code, again, I don't really care. He's responsible for enforcing copyright on his code. I'm not. * And if he's contributing code to my project, I'm pretty sure that code is integrated into my project, and is largely useless outside of it. So the odds of a violation of just his code are pretty small. * If someone infringes on the project as a whole, then I own copyright to the majority, and I can enforce my copyright, independent of anyone else. * [edit] And if I submit code to the FSF and assign copyright to them, then it's their responsibility to enforce copyright... because they own the copyright. And yes, I have no standing. Is that clear? Can people please stop down-voting me for pointing out logical inconsistencies?

> If someone uses a portion of your code you don't have copyright over, Then it's not my code, and I don't have rights on it, do I?

by adekok 9y ago

> If someone uses a portion of your code you don't have copyright over, Then it's not my code, and I don't have rights on it, do I?

jhanschoo 9y ago

I hope parent commentor clarifies this: do you still get to claim a fork of your contributed code as copyrighted to yourself? The standing problem goes both ways; if you distributed your fork but you had licensed it from the FSF, won't you lack standing from unauthorized use?

BeetleB 9y ago
>do you still get to claim a fork of your contributed code as copyrighted to yourself? I believe so - as long as you license it with the GPL.
adekok 9y ago
Yes, you lack standing. The FSF owns copyright.
- jhanschoo 9y ago
  Is it legally possible to share copyright?
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mikegerwitz 9y ago
> I hope parent commentor clarifies this I can't edit my comment; sorry. I meant "your project's code".

_jal 9y ago

So you concede that it doesn't matter if you wrote over half the code? If only there were a mechanism for reaching that other code, so you could defend it... Oh, wait. Perhaps if those contributors assigned their copyright to you under a very permissive contract...

adekok 9y ago
I don't understand the confusion here. It's not rocket science. > So you concede that it doesn't matter if you wrote over half the code? There's just no way you can conclude that from my comments. I explicitely said I could enforce copyright on my code, even if it's only half of the project. Again, the comment I was replying to said this: > If someone uses a portion of your code you don't have copyright over, Does no one see the logical contradiction in that statement? YOUR code that YOU DON'T OWN. Uh... then it's not MY CODE, is it? Is that really that hard to figure out? I'll explain using simple examples, as people apparently aren't getting it. * If a third-party contributor to my project re-uses his own code elsewhere, I don't care. It's his code. * If someone violates copyright on a third-party contributors code, again, I don't really care. He's responsible for enforcing copyright on his code. I'm not. * And if he's contributing code to my project, I'm pretty sure that code is integrated into my project, and is largely useless outside of it. So the odds of a violation of just his code are pretty small. * If someone infringes on the project as a whole, then I own copyright to the majority, and I can enforce my copyright, independent of anyone else. * [edit] And if I submit code to the FSF and assign copyright to them, then it's their responsibility to enforce copyright... because they own the copyright. And yes, I have no standing. Is that clear? Can people please stop down-voting me for pointing out logical inconsistencies?