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It was in this one (http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-07-20/aboriginal-shelter-pushes-human-history-back-to-65,000-years/8719314 http://www.abc.net.au/new
by flukus 9y ago
It was in this one (http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-07-20/aboriginal-shelter-pushes-human-history-back-to-65,000-years/8719314 http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-07-20/aboriginal-she...) from the (Australian) ABC, which I assume is the nytimes source:
> Under the agreement, the Mirarr people have had a right to veto the excavation at any time, control over the artefacts and final say about findings announced about the site.
This leaves it open to abuse like we see in other fields where they can conduct an experiment 10 times and only publish the result that comes out how they want.
For the record, I have no reason to believe the scientists involved are being dishonest, but imposing these conditions should not be acceptable.
- sundvor 9y agoCareful here. I would by no means pretend to understand them, but I'm at least aware that there are a number of special sensitivities that must be considered when it comes to Aboriginal culture. So it's certainly not about abusing the research, but about respecting their culture (if I have it right).
- coldtea 9y agoEspecially given that the British/Australians hunted them like animals, exterminated them by the thousands, displayed them in circus like fashion back in Europe, and forcibly sent their kids in concentration/"re-education" (whitening) camps up until the 80s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenou... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truganini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truganini https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/aboriginal-bones-being-returned-australia https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/aboriginal-bon...
- sundvor 9y agoYes, indeed - thanks. The history is horrible; a little respect is the least we can offer.
- h0l0cube 9y agoIt seems a strange contradiction that someone would get flustered about the accurate preservation of a cultural history, and in the same breath demonstrate little interest in the conservation of that culture. What's your motivation for wanting this information? Is someone's appetite for inconsequential information more important than a people's dignity? These aren't rhetorical questions, it seems there's an incompatible split in moral leanings on this thread and I want to get to the bottom of that.