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As I said earlier we are still long, long way away from Linux gaming being a thing and longer it takes for Linux to come to parity now the further Windows will

As I said earlier we are still long, long way away from Linux gaming being a thing and longer it takes for Linux to come to parity now the further Windows will race ahead if you believe all in the VR hype that's going on. >I stay away from DRMed platforms I am not ideologically bound, I care about performance. If Linux is enough for you then more power to you, I wish it could be enough for me too.

shmerl 9y ago
Vulkan is already available, which removes any advantage that Windows might have had in the past beacuse of DX being ahead of OpenGL. VR related development in Vulkan drivers / Linux graphics stack is now active as well. If you care about performance, you'd stay away from consoles anyway. They are way too limited in comparison. So I don't agree that Linux is much behind technically. Smaller market share is more of an issue.
- nextlevelwizard 9y ago
  I've heard about vulkan for quite some time now, still haven't seen it used widely. Currently I do not see a future where Linux would be on equal footing with Windows when gaming is concerned. Linux would have to become way easier to use and have something that was strictly better than Windows. Free software and other ideological stuff won't make gamers to switch. What Linux needs is image and video editing suites to rival and surpass Photoshop, AfterEffects, Premiere, Final Cut, etc. Some streaming technology that is strictly better than anything available on Windows (so I guess OBS should drop Windows support or something) and then games would need to run at least on par. Maybe then some of the influential people (youtube personalities, twitch streamers) would switch over and bring their fans with them. As long as Linux is just sort of viable there won't be wide adoption, because why would you change everything about your computing life for something that's +/-0% gain. Even at 10% better experience you might have to consider hard if changing over is worth the effort. Linux needs to magically become superior in many ways for people to hope on board in large numbers.
  - shmerl 9y ago
    > I've heard about vulkan for quite some time now, still haven't seen it used widely. It's recent, so its usage is gradually growing. Unity engine now supports it, with Unreal and Cry on the way. Once major engines will have it, it will implicitly be used in much larger numbers.
    - nextlevelwizard 9y ago
      I have no idea how game development works, so would this mean that you can just compile Linux and Windows binaries from the same source code? Or is it just easier to make it multi platform? Also is there any thing like with Xbox vs Playstation were you have to do some platform specific tricks to get the performance up or is that way further in the line for optimisation?
      - shmerl 9y ago
        It would allow using higher performance design where it's supported. Walled garden platforms like PS and Xbox will require duplicating the work anyway, thanks to MS and Sony being lock-in jerks in general. It wastes engine developers' efforts for no good reason, but there isn't anything they can do about it.

shmerl 9y ago

Vulkan is already available, which removes any advantage that Windows might have had in the past beacuse of DX being ahead of OpenGL. VR related development in Vulkan drivers / Linux graphics stack is now active as well. If you care about performance, you'd stay away from consoles anyway. They are way too limited in comparison. So I don't agree that Linux is much behind technically. Smaller market share is more of an issue.

nextlevelwizard 9y ago
I've heard about vulkan for quite some time now, still haven't seen it used widely. Currently I do not see a future where Linux would be on equal footing with Windows when gaming is concerned. Linux would have to become way easier to use and have something that was strictly better than Windows. Free software and other ideological stuff won't make gamers to switch. What Linux needs is image and video editing suites to rival and surpass Photoshop, AfterEffects, Premiere, Final Cut, etc. Some streaming technology that is strictly better than anything available on Windows (so I guess OBS should drop Windows support or something) and then games would need to run at least on par. Maybe then some of the influential people (youtube personalities, twitch streamers) would switch over and bring their fans with them. As long as Linux is just sort of viable there won't be wide adoption, because why would you change everything about your computing life for something that's +/-0% gain. Even at 10% better experience you might have to consider hard if changing over is worth the effort. Linux needs to magically become superior in many ways for people to hope on board in large numbers.
- shmerl 9y ago
  > I've heard about vulkan for quite some time now, still haven't seen it used widely. It's recent, so its usage is gradually growing. Unity engine now supports it, with Unreal and Cry on the way. Once major engines will have it, it will implicitly be used in much larger numbers.
  - nextlevelwizard 9y ago
    I have no idea how game development works, so would this mean that you can just compile Linux and Windows binaries from the same source code? Or is it just easier to make it multi platform? Also is there any thing like with Xbox vs Playstation were you have to do some platform specific tricks to get the performance up or is that way further in the line for optimisation?
    - shmerl 9y ago
      It would allow using higher performance design where it's supported. Walled garden platforms like PS and Xbox will require duplicating the work anyway, thanks to MS and Sony being lock-in jerks in general. It wastes engine developers' efforts for no good reason, but there isn't anything they can do about it.