I'd rather use Redux without React than React without Redux. Sure there's some boilerplate but we use typescript so the redux boilerplate seems trivial in compa

I'd rather use Redux without React than React without Redux. Sure there's some boilerplate but we use typescript so the redux boilerplate seems trivial in comparison. Redux keeps your app _simple_. That's not the same as easy. It means that you can reason about your app as it grows and new features are added. When you run into problems like: this page is taking too long to load because we do calculations x, y and z on the server to push the data to the app. But z takes forever to compute and makes the initial page load painful. With Redux, you can move z to an async endpoint and just load x and y on page load (put the component that needs z in a loading state). Then, fire an ajax request when the component mounts to get z. When that call returns, it updates your store and the component that needs z transitions from loading to loaded. I took me a couple of hours to do the above in a Redux app and decrease the page load from 2 seconds to 300ms. And it didn't add complexity to the app that would make it difficult to maintain. I don't even want to think how long that refactor would take if the state had been managed with React. And ... don't even get me started on how easy -- and fast -- it is to test a Redux app. Zero side-effects means zero setup and teardown between specs.