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The Dutch, Russians and US had some deal going on last year where their law-enforcement and even spooks were co-operating, tracking stuff end to end from russia

The Dutch, Russians and US had some deal going on last year where their law-enforcement and even spooks were co-operating, tracking stuff end to end from russia to netherlands. It all got messed up by some CIA with a usb stick apparently. Russians spotted it, didn't like. So hosted in russia is not going to save you, depending on who your friends are of course.

ryanlol 9y ago
I guess you're referring to http://electrospaces.blogspot.de/2017/06/dutch-russian-cyber-crime-case-reveals.html http://electrospaces.blogspot.de/2017/06/dutch-russian-cyber... https://www.volkskrant.nl/4497360/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/4497360/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/hacker/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/hacker/ To me this paints a pretty realistic picture of how difficult it is for western LE to co-operate with Russia, it's not impossible but it certainly isn't easy. Both sides will be cherry-picking the things they share, with the Russian cops facing ever-increasing pressure from the intelligence side of things. It's worth remembering that this story ended with Sergei Mikhailov in a Russian jail cell facing charges of treason. No, I don't believe hosting in Russia will magically solve all of your problems. I however do believe that it'll make LE co-operation significantly more difficult, especially after the recent events.
- nthcolumn 9y ago
  Yes this exactly but also heard that there was a fight one day in Dreisberg? He said he saw John Wheeler with a usbstick. He went to the Dutch and that it all got a bit tense. Did GRU then accuse Mikhailovich with passing information to the CIA? Poor guy. Interesting about the Equinox DPI 'cache' too. http://nos.nl/artikel/2181605-deze-data-blokkendozen-zorgen-ervoor-dat-jij-snel-kunt-netflixen.html http://nos.nl/artikel/2181605-deze-data-blokkendozen-zorgen-... (Dutch) Is there a bottleneck there similar to Cornwall? Spies huh!

ryanlol 9y ago

I guess you're referring to http://electrospaces.blogspot.de/2017/06/dutch-russian-cyber-crime-case-reveals.html http://electrospaces.blogspot.de/2017/06/dutch-russian-cyber... https://www.volkskrant.nl/4497360/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/4497360/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/hacker/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/hacker/ To me this paints a pretty realistic picture of how difficult it is for western LE to co-operate with Russia, it's not impossible but it certainly isn't easy. Both sides will be cherry-picking the things they share, with the Russian cops facing ever-increasing pressure from the intelligence side of things. It's worth remembering that this story ended with Sergei Mikhailov in a Russian jail cell facing charges of treason. No, I don't believe hosting in Russia will magically solve all of your problems. I however do believe that it'll make LE co-operation significantly more difficult, especially after the recent events.

nthcolumn 9y ago
Yes this exactly but also heard that there was a fight one day in Dreisberg? He said he saw John Wheeler with a usbstick. He went to the Dutch and that it all got a bit tense. Did GRU then accuse Mikhailovich with passing information to the CIA? Poor guy. Interesting about the Equinox DPI 'cache' too. http://nos.nl/artikel/2181605-deze-data-blokkendozen-zorgen-ervoor-dat-jij-snel-kunt-netflixen.html http://nos.nl/artikel/2181605-deze-data-blokkendozen-zorgen-... (Dutch) Is there a bottleneck there similar to Cornwall? Spies huh!