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funny thing is that they don't even try hard. they keep changing plans. their market just shout their brand and some price they dont even offer anymore. and th

by gcb0 9y ago

funny thing is that they don't even try hard. they keep changing plans. their market just shout their brand and some price they dont even offer anymore. and they always try to move me to a cheaper plan even though I want to stay on the much more expensive one just because I dont want to think about roaming when I travel.

Analemma_ 9y ago
Yup. It speaks to just how terrible Verizon and AT&T are that T-Mobile has all these fuckups and they're still far-and-away the best choice.
- craptocurrency 9y ago
  T-Mobile has worst service quality and hence why it's cheaper.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    I have no idea why this is even an argument. T-mobiles coverage outside of metropolitan areas is worse than Verizon and AT&T. I'm a big fan on T-mobile but I rarely travel outside of metro areas except by plane. If I did have to drive a lot in rural areas, I would definitely be on Verizon.
xeromal 9y ago
Call roaming or data/text roaming? I'm on their latest plan ($75) and data/text works for "free" in a ton of countries. I've used it in Peru, Mexico, and Iceland so far.
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  The "free roaming" is EDGE (aka "2G") [1], which is too slow for most things these days, to the point of being unusable. You could check your email in a pinch, but that's about it. Forget about, say, Google Maps. I'm in Germany at the moment, and I'm using a European SIM card instead of my T-Mobile in order to get stuff done. Germany's 4G/LTE is notoriously spotty, but at least I can get 4G most of the time. You can buy T-Mobile "data pass", but it's ridiculously expensive; the largest pass you can buy is a 500MB, for $50 (!). The competition is equally bad, of course. AT&T charges $10 per day (!) for international roaming, meaning you're given the same amount of data as in the US. [1] https://www.t-mobile.com/travel-abroad-with-simple-global https://www.t-mobile.com/travel-abroad-with-simple-global
  - kimolas 9y ago
    I've been using the free unlimited roaming from T-Mobile on several trips to Japan, Argentina, France, and Italy. Often, the speeds are actually faster than EDGE, unless the network is busy. I have had no issues using Google/Apple Maps or booking hotels, etc. through this connection. The only thing I miss is having Hotspot capabilities, even at the reduced speeds.
    - lobster_johnson 9y ago
      EDGE is consistently, unbearably slow for me. If the phone has negotatiated EDGE, you should be getting EDGE speeds, which has a maximum bandwidth of 236 Kbit/s (theoretically up to 473.6 Kbit/s according to Wikipedia). That's not fast. I occasionally get reduced to EDGE on the Berlin subway, and I barely get Hacker News up. (LTE has a maxmimum of about 450 Mbit/s, but in practice it's closer to 15-50 Mbit/s down, maybe half that up.) Maybe someone who knows mobile technology could chime in.
      - khc 9y ago
        In my experience, it's usually LTE but speed capped.
  - cowholio4 9y ago
    I am a big fan of Google Fi. It's $10/GB pretty much everywhere in the world. Really great if you are hopping around to different countries. Also you can get additional data only sims for no charge. I used T-Mobile for a trip in the past and found it to be pretty frustrating.
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  - compsciphd 9y ago
    it's actually LTE, just rate limited. With t-mobile one plus, you'll peg it at its max of 256kbps (or 32KB/s). While that's painfully slow for web browsing, it works perfectly fine for online taxis, directions with maps and even e-mail and chatting. i.e. anything that uses the internet passively.
excalibur 9y ago
Not me. I actually got locked into my existing plan through a recent add-a-line-for-free promotion. The gotcha there being that if/when you change your plan, the free line stops being free. For the moment my current plan is still the best fit for my needs, but that's likely to change sooner or later, and now I have this additional barrier to consider when contemplating switching it up.
- dawnerd 9y ago
  That extra line for free was a nice deal. Im using it as a backup "office" phone. it's the number I give to anything that might be public record, such as dns or my llc docs.

by gcb0 9y ago

Analemma_ 9y ago

Yup. It speaks to just how terrible Verizon and AT&T are that T-Mobile has all these fuckups and they're still far-and-away the best choice.

craptocurrency 9y ago
T-Mobile has worst service quality and hence why it's cheaper.
- scarface74 9y ago
  I have no idea why this is even an argument. T-mobiles coverage outside of metropolitan areas is worse than Verizon and AT&T. I'm a big fan on T-mobile but I rarely travel outside of metro areas except by plane. If I did have to drive a lot in rural areas, I would definitely be on Verizon.

xeromal 9y ago

Call roaming or data/text roaming? I'm on their latest plan ($75) and data/text works for "free" in a ton of countries. I've used it in Peru, Mexico, and Iceland so far.

lobster_johnson 9y ago
The "free roaming" is EDGE (aka "2G") [1], which is too slow for most things these days, to the point of being unusable. You could check your email in a pinch, but that's about it. Forget about, say, Google Maps. I'm in Germany at the moment, and I'm using a European SIM card instead of my T-Mobile in order to get stuff done. Germany's 4G/LTE is notoriously spotty, but at least I can get 4G most of the time. You can buy T-Mobile "data pass", but it's ridiculously expensive; the largest pass you can buy is a 500MB, for $50 (!). The competition is equally bad, of course. AT&T charges $10 per day (!) for international roaming, meaning you're given the same amount of data as in the US. [1] https://www.t-mobile.com/travel-abroad-with-simple-global https://www.t-mobile.com/travel-abroad-with-simple-global
- kimolas 9y ago
  I've been using the free unlimited roaming from T-Mobile on several trips to Japan, Argentina, France, and Italy. Often, the speeds are actually faster than EDGE, unless the network is busy. I have had no issues using Google/Apple Maps or booking hotels, etc. through this connection. The only thing I miss is having Hotspot capabilities, even at the reduced speeds.
  - lobster_johnson 9y ago
    EDGE is consistently, unbearably slow for me. If the phone has negotatiated EDGE, you should be getting EDGE speeds, which has a maximum bandwidth of 236 Kbit/s (theoretically up to 473.6 Kbit/s according to Wikipedia). That's not fast. I occasionally get reduced to EDGE on the Berlin subway, and I barely get Hacker News up. (LTE has a maxmimum of about 450 Mbit/s, but in practice it's closer to 15-50 Mbit/s down, maybe half that up.) Maybe someone who knows mobile technology could chime in.
    - khc 9y ago
      In my experience, it's usually LTE but speed capped.
- cowholio4 9y ago
  I am a big fan of Google Fi. It's $10/GB pretty much everywhere in the world. Really great if you are hopping around to different countries. Also you can get additional data only sims for no charge. I used T-Mobile for a trip in the past and found it to be pretty frustrating.
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- compsciphd 9y ago
  it's actually LTE, just rate limited. With t-mobile one plus, you'll peg it at its max of 256kbps (or 32KB/s). While that's painfully slow for web browsing, it works perfectly fine for online taxis, directions with maps and even e-mail and chatting. i.e. anything that uses the internet passively.

excalibur 9y ago

Not me. I actually got locked into my existing plan through a recent add-a-line-for-free promotion. The gotcha there being that if/when you change your plan, the free line stops being free. For the moment my current plan is still the best fit for my needs, but that's likely to change sooner or later, and now I have this additional barrier to consider when contemplating switching it up.

dawnerd 9y ago
That extra line for free was a nice deal. Im using it as a backup "office" phone. it's the number I give to anything that might be public record, such as dns or my llc docs.