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I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic and went on keto with almost no carbs for 5 months and am now borderline not diabetic / pre diabetic.

by 147 9y ago

inerte 9y ago
"Almost" no carbs is very different than OP's triple assertion of "you're mistaken", "not required" and "zero".
- nf05papsjfVbc 9y ago
  It's really really tough to achieve or maintain 0 carbs in a day's food intake. This is one of the reasons why you'll not come across many who have done it. On a keto diet, one can attain < 20g carbs per day with some struggle but to cut it out entirely is really hard without missing some other essential nutrients - because at least some carbs tag along with other things.
  - xiaoma 9y ago
    It's not really. Most traditional religions have fasting practices and pretty much all our ancestors did it from time to time. A 7 day fast here and there is completely natural and not that hard after the first 30-50 hours.
    - travmatt 9y ago
      Your point is irrelevant - the post you replied to asserted that it's tough to create a diet with no carbs, to which your suggestion is to not eat at all. Not eating is not a sustainable diet.
      - xiaoma 9y ago
        It is a sure-fire way to get into keto if that's your goal. Also there are some significant advantages to intermittent fasting vs continuous calorie restriction: https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting-vs-caloric-reduction https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting-vs-caloric-r...
- 147 9y ago
  You're right. But even in terms of unrefined carbs like certain sugary fruits I couldn't have without it affecting my blood sugar levels.
iamt2 9y ago
Congratulations on your hard work! Head on over and join fellow Type 2's at the Diabetes Daily site. They were the community whose discussions gave me the tools to bring my HbA1c to 5.7 for 2.5 years running. Without any medication (I was on Metformin and statins when initially diagnosed). If you refuse to consign yourself to the fate that most MD's in the US describe for their diabetic patients (mine told me, "there's nothing you can do to improve it, other than some exercise, take the medicine, annual check ups, and then hope there aren't complications as you age"...I got another general practitioner), then self-support groups like this are the only way to go to find what works for you, IMHO. The Reddit group is also helpful when starting out, but I found them not as hardcore about control as I wanted, which I found in some members of the DD group.
- 147 9y ago
  Yup, I was originally on metformin before keto. When I was first diagnosed I went to a dietician and I told her I could try cutting out carbs and she gave me the Food Pyramid and told me to cut out fat and reduce intake of sugar. Did that for a year then discovered keto in January of this year and it paid off for my first a1c check.

I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic and went on keto with almost no carbs for 5 months and am now borderline not diabetic / pre diabetic.

by 147 9y ago

I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic and went on keto with almost no carbs for 5 months and am now borderline not diabetic / pre diabetic.

inerte 9y ago

"Almost" no carbs is very different than OP's triple assertion of "you're mistaken", "not required" and "zero".

nf05papsjfVbc 9y ago
It's really really tough to achieve or maintain 0 carbs in a day's food intake. This is one of the reasons why you'll not come across many who have done it. On a keto diet, one can attain < 20g carbs per day with some struggle but to cut it out entirely is really hard without missing some other essential nutrients - because at least some carbs tag along with other things.
- xiaoma 9y ago
  It's not really. Most traditional religions have fasting practices and pretty much all our ancestors did it from time to time. A 7 day fast here and there is completely natural and not that hard after the first 30-50 hours.
  - travmatt 9y ago
    Your point is irrelevant - the post you replied to asserted that it's tough to create a diet with no carbs, to which your suggestion is to not eat at all. Not eating is not a sustainable diet.
    - xiaoma 9y ago
      It is a sure-fire way to get into keto if that's your goal. Also there are some significant advantages to intermittent fasting vs continuous calorie restriction: https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting-vs-caloric-reduction https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting-vs-caloric-r...
147 9y ago
You're right. But even in terms of unrefined carbs like certain sugary fruits I couldn't have without it affecting my blood sugar levels.

iamt2 9y ago

Congratulations on your hard work! Head on over and join fellow Type 2's at the Diabetes Daily site. They were the community whose discussions gave me the tools to bring my HbA1c to 5.7 for 2.5 years running. Without any medication (I was on Metformin and statins when initially diagnosed). If you refuse to consign yourself to the fate that most MD's in the US describe for their diabetic patients (mine told me, "there's nothing you can do to improve it, other than some exercise, take the medicine, annual check ups, and then hope there aren't complications as you age"...I got another general practitioner), then self-support groups like this are the only way to go to find what works for you, IMHO. The Reddit group is also helpful when starting out, but I found them not as hardcore about control as I wanted, which I found in some members of the DD group.

147 9y ago
Yup, I was originally on metformin before keto. When I was first diagnosed I went to a dietician and I told her I could try cutting out carbs and she gave me the Food Pyramid and told me to cut out fat and reduce intake of sugar. Did that for a year then discovered keto in January of this year and it paid off for my first a1c check.