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Also be aware of "dry drowning," it's incredibly rare but worth knowing it exists and it's symptoms if you or anyone you are caring for has a near drowning epis

by Sleeep 9y ago

Also be aware of "dry drowning," it's incredibly rare but worth knowing it exists and it's symptoms if you or anyone you are caring for has a near drowning episode. http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/outdoor/dry-drowning/ http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/outdoor/dry-drowning/ "Any child pulled from the pool needs medical attention," says Dr. Berchelmann. "At the very least, call the pediatrician."

rayiner 9y ago
https://dockatevaccineblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/18/dry-drowning-which-is-not-a-thing https://dockatevaccineblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/18/dry-drow.... Our daughter was coughing after swimming in a river a few weeks ago, and my mother in law found the dry drowning stuff on the internet. I was like "dry drowning doesn't exist," but we called a nursing hotline which told us to go to the ER. The doctor checked out the kid, then asked us for the number of the nursing hotline so she could yell at them for sending parents to the ER over a condition that doesn't exist.
- Sleeep 9y ago
  That page does not say dry drowning doesn't exist and does not contradict a single thing that was said in the link I posted. No shit swallowing water is not the same as aspirating [breathing] it and nobody said it was! "And I’m pretty sure everyone understands that a child who is down in the water, gets pulled out, and requires resuscitation needs immediate medical attention, even if they seem to recover." - No, they might not!!! And that's the point!!! The takeaway is: If someone has a serious near-drowning episode they should seek medical attention even if they appear fine. If someone exhibits symptoms listed after aspirating water, they should seek medical attention.
  - tptacek 9y ago
    Wait, he didn't say "this link says there's no such thing as dry drowning". He said he was told to take his daughter to the doctor over suspected dry drowning, actually did so, and the doctor got upset because there's no such thing as dry drowning. His doctor contradicted you, and the advice you gave at the end of your comment. Are you also a doctor?
    - gerbilly 9y ago
      Actually his doctor is mostly right, however dry drowning can occur, but only from immersion in dihydrogen monoxide.
    - darkerside 9y ago
      I implicitly trust most of what I hear from a doctor, even when it defies intuition. But I have much less trust for what I hear secondhand, i.e. when someone says "my doctor said". There's simply too great a likelihood for signal corruption along the way. Patients can fail to communicate context to their doctors, miss subtleties in the communication back, and fail to relay context once again when they relate their stories to other lay folk. And no, I am not a doctor :)
mholmes680 9y ago
since i first heard of dry drowning earlier this summer, i haven't been able to enjoy a pool with my 1 and 2 year olds. It's taken the place of SIDS for me.
- verbify 9y ago
  I assume you take the preventative measures for SIDS? http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Sudden-infant-death-syndrome/Pages/Introduction.aspx http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Sudden-infant-death-syndrome/Pa...
  - mholmes680 9y ago
    DO: as a parent, wake up repeatedly and check your infant for symptoms of SIDS three times a night. Ensure wife does the same 5 times a night. I'm speaking a little in hyperbole here, but you get the point I'm sure.
- Sleeep 9y ago
  Don't they have infant and toddler level swimming classes?
  - MandieD 9y ago
    Yes, and it's possibly the best time to start! "Mommy and Me" swim class when I was 18 months old meant that I learned to swim before conscious memory - I don't remember not knowing how to swim. My mom was a great parent and wonderful overall, but that was a particularly excellent decision of hers. She was still careful with my little brother and me around water - we were enrolled in Red Cross swim classes during the summers in elementary school, and always had lifejackets on at the lake. Despite being terrible at pretty much all sports (unlike my athletically-gifted brother), I was always a decent swimmer.
  - mholmes680 9y ago
    Both of my kids can happily float /doggie paddle in floaties so far, with the older one in daily classes. She started at age 6 months--she's old enough to understand it, but the article that prompted my fears was about a 6 year old who just happened to inhale enough water to make a difference a week later. My younger one is still testing to see what he can get away with, and can't communicate things like "hey my chest feels funny" yet. When my wife and I were on our honeymoon we watched a couple throw their 6 month old (10 month maybe? wasn't walking, only crawling) in the pool over and over again. Most of the pool looked on in horror, but they had taught her the "leg kick to turn over onto her back and float" skill. Definitely gave us perspective.

by Sleeep 9y ago

rayiner 9y ago

https://dockatevaccineblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/18/dry-drowning-which-is-not-a-thing https://dockatevaccineblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/18/dry-drow.... Our daughter was coughing after swimming in a river a few weeks ago, and my mother in law found the dry drowning stuff on the internet. I was like "dry drowning doesn't exist," but we called a nursing hotline which told us to go to the ER. The doctor checked out the kid, then asked us for the number of the nursing hotline so she could yell at them for sending parents to the ER over a condition that doesn't exist.

Sleeep 9y ago
That page does not say dry drowning doesn't exist and does not contradict a single thing that was said in the link I posted. No shit swallowing water is not the same as aspirating [breathing] it and nobody said it was! "And I’m pretty sure everyone understands that a child who is down in the water, gets pulled out, and requires resuscitation needs immediate medical attention, even if they seem to recover." - No, they might not!!! And that's the point!!! The takeaway is: If someone has a serious near-drowning episode they should seek medical attention even if they appear fine. If someone exhibits symptoms listed after aspirating water, they should seek medical attention.
- tptacek 9y ago
  Wait, he didn't say "this link says there's no such thing as dry drowning". He said he was told to take his daughter to the doctor over suspected dry drowning, actually did so, and the doctor got upset because there's no such thing as dry drowning. His doctor contradicted you, and the advice you gave at the end of your comment. Are you also a doctor?
  - gerbilly 9y ago
    Actually his doctor is mostly right, however dry drowning can occur, but only from immersion in dihydrogen monoxide.
  - darkerside 9y ago
    I implicitly trust most of what I hear from a doctor, even when it defies intuition. But I have much less trust for what I hear secondhand, i.e. when someone says "my doctor said". There's simply too great a likelihood for signal corruption along the way. Patients can fail to communicate context to their doctors, miss subtleties in the communication back, and fail to relay context once again when they relate their stories to other lay folk. And no, I am not a doctor :)

mholmes680 9y ago

since i first heard of dry drowning earlier this summer, i haven't been able to enjoy a pool with my 1 and 2 year olds. It's taken the place of SIDS for me.

verbify 9y ago
I assume you take the preventative measures for SIDS? http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Sudden-infant-death-syndrome/Pages/Introduction.aspx http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Sudden-infant-death-syndrome/Pa...
- mholmes680 9y ago
  DO: as a parent, wake up repeatedly and check your infant for symptoms of SIDS three times a night. Ensure wife does the same 5 times a night. I'm speaking a little in hyperbole here, but you get the point I'm sure.
Sleeep 9y ago
Don't they have infant and toddler level swimming classes?
- MandieD 9y ago
  Yes, and it's possibly the best time to start! "Mommy and Me" swim class when I was 18 months old meant that I learned to swim before conscious memory - I don't remember not knowing how to swim. My mom was a great parent and wonderful overall, but that was a particularly excellent decision of hers. She was still careful with my little brother and me around water - we were enrolled in Red Cross swim classes during the summers in elementary school, and always had lifejackets on at the lake. Despite being terrible at pretty much all sports (unlike my athletically-gifted brother), I was always a decent swimmer.
- mholmes680 9y ago
  Both of my kids can happily float /doggie paddle in floaties so far, with the older one in daily classes. She started at age 6 months--she's old enough to understand it, but the article that prompted my fears was about a 6 year old who just happened to inhale enough water to make a difference a week later. My younger one is still testing to see what he can get away with, and can't communicate things like "hey my chest feels funny" yet. When my wife and I were on our honeymoon we watched a couple throw their 6 month old (10 month maybe? wasn't walking, only crawling) in the pool over and over again. Most of the pool looked on in horror, but they had taught her the "leg kick to turn over onto her back and float" skill. Definitely gave us perspective.