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Lots of haters on here! :) Like most of you, I use all browsers to test sites and applications. But Firefox is my main browser on all platforms for a bunch of r

by owly 9y ago

Lots of haters on here! :) Like most of you, I use all browsers to test sites and applications. But Firefox is my main browser on all platforms for a bunch of reasons and I have no issues with performance. It has all the add-ins I need. I like the way it looks compared to the alternatives. The test pilot add-ins have been great. https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments And last but not least, by using it I'm supporting the open web and not feeding a monopoly.

Rotareti 9y ago
Don't forget to mention privacy. Why would I use a browser which is spying on me if there is an alternative that doesn't? Same goes for other software.
- victorhooi 9y ago
  Could you substantiate this claim? Because it sounds like FUD at this stage, until somebody provides a shred of evidence.
  - Rotareti 9y ago
    No I can't since it's closed source software. But why would they not read your personal data in the browser, if they did (do?) with other products like Gmail? Give me one reason why I should trust them? There are people who care more about their private data and others that care less. If you find Chrome trustworthy, go with it. For me a closed source browser is not an option.
    - victorhooi 9y ago
      I'm sorry - but this just comes across as wild paranoia - you're basically saying they could read your data - so they must? That's like saying your school could install cameras in the toilets - so they must have? Or that your landlord is secretly going through your stuff, because he has keys? Actually - the Chromium browser project is open source: https://www.chromium.org/ https://www.chromium.org/ It's what Google Chrome is built on - you could just compile that if you wanted. (You lose out on a bunch of integrations - but it sounds like that might be what you want, anyhow).
      - Rotareti 9y ago
        > Or that your landlord is secretly going through your stuff, because he has keys? If he is known for doing such things, yes, I have to expect him doing so. > Actually - the Chromium browser project is open source. I know and Chrome is not.
        victorhooi 9y ago
        And what evidence do you have for it ever having happened? I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I see a lot of conjecture and wild paranoia - but not much factual reporting.
        Rotareti 9y ago
        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/gmail-scans-all-emails-new-google-terms-clarify https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/gmail-sca... I really must be a wild paranoid if I would ever think that a big corp or gov would read the private data that I throw into their cloud. You think it's paranoid to expect it, I think it's naive to not expect it.
digi_owl 9y ago
Yeah, lets swing the "hater" label around just to be on the safe side. Why is it that anyone that question the decisions regarding a project are instantly tarred as "haters"?

by owly 9y ago

Rotareti 9y ago

Don't forget to mention privacy. Why would I use a browser which is spying on me if there is an alternative that doesn't? Same goes for other software.

victorhooi 9y ago
Could you substantiate this claim? Because it sounds like FUD at this stage, until somebody provides a shred of evidence.
- Rotareti 9y ago
  No I can't since it's closed source software. But why would they not read your personal data in the browser, if they did (do?) with other products like Gmail? Give me one reason why I should trust them? There are people who care more about their private data and others that care less. If you find Chrome trustworthy, go with it. For me a closed source browser is not an option.
  - victorhooi 9y ago
    I'm sorry - but this just comes across as wild paranoia - you're basically saying they could read your data - so they must? That's like saying your school could install cameras in the toilets - so they must have? Or that your landlord is secretly going through your stuff, because he has keys? Actually - the Chromium browser project is open source: https://www.chromium.org/ https://www.chromium.org/ It's what Google Chrome is built on - you could just compile that if you wanted. (You lose out on a bunch of integrations - but it sounds like that might be what you want, anyhow).
    - Rotareti 9y ago
      > Or that your landlord is secretly going through your stuff, because he has keys? If he is known for doing such things, yes, I have to expect him doing so. > Actually - the Chromium browser project is open source. I know and Chrome is not.
      - victorhooi 9y ago
        And what evidence do you have for it ever having happened? I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I see a lot of conjecture and wild paranoia - but not much factual reporting.
        Rotareti 9y ago
        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/gmail-scans-all-emails-new-google-terms-clarify https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/gmail-sca... I really must be a wild paranoid if I would ever think that a big corp or gov would read the private data that I throw into their cloud. You think it's paranoid to expect it, I think it's naive to not expect it.

digi_owl 9y ago

Yeah, lets swing the "hater" label around just to be on the safe side. Why is it that anyone that question the decisions regarding a project are instantly tarred as "haters"?