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I switched away from firefox once they announced they were moving to the Chrome extension model (and thereby sank their "better extensions" selling point.)

by bloaf 9y ago

johnny22 9y ago
they expanded the API so it's way less limited than chrome extensions. I don't understand how that's not known by folks who read HN at this point.
- vetinari 9y ago
  It is less limited than chrome extensions API, but still way more limited than the old API. Still no Tree Style Tabs or DownThemAll!.
  - NoGravitas 9y ago
    There's a Tree Style Tabs-like WebExtension. It has a few quirks, though. It runs in the sidebar. It doesn't hide the top tabs (though you can do this with Stylish). It has its own menu for tabs which does not include some options (like send tab to device). There was a very good non-nested side-tabs extension in Firefox Test Pilot, but it has expired.
    - vetinari 9y ago
      Tab Center (the extension from Test Pilot that expired) is not an WebExtension. It is a classic extension that will stop working in FF56. Yes, I'm using it ;)
- bloaf 9y ago
  Sure. But in practice everyone is just going to make extensions that are compatible with "all" the browsers, and there are developers who have simply decided not to rewrite their firefox extensions. http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html
  - johnny22 9y ago
    doubtful, otherwise folks woudldn't have spent so much time on stuff like sqlitebrowser and other bits.
richardboegli 9y ago
Try Pale Moon, it's great. They are keeping the current Extension model.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  However long that will last. They are already considering rebasing on a newer Firefox codebase for their UXP plans.
  - richardboegli 9y ago
    Quoted below is from Pale Moon roadmap [0] Long-term plans Our long-term plans for Pale Moon involve (potentially) moving our browser to the UXP (Unified XUL Platform) that is currently being worked on alongside the browser. This will at its earliest be somewhere in 2018. Plug-ins Pale Moon supports NPAPI plug-ins. Unlike Firefox, we will not be deprecating or removing support for these kinds of plug-ins. This means that you will be able to continue using your media, authentication, and other plug-ins in Pale Moon like Flash, Silverlight, bank-authenticators or networking plug-ins for specific purposes. [0]: https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml

I switched away from firefox once they announced they were moving to the Chrome extension model (and thereby sank their "better extensions" selling point.)

by bloaf 9y ago

I switched away from firefox once they announced they were moving to the Chrome extension model (and thereby sank their "better extensions" selling point.)

johnny22 9y ago

they expanded the API so it's way less limited than chrome extensions. I don't understand how that's not known by folks who read HN at this point.

vetinari 9y ago
It is less limited than chrome extensions API, but still way more limited than the old API. Still no Tree Style Tabs or DownThemAll!.
- NoGravitas 9y ago
  There's a Tree Style Tabs-like WebExtension. It has a few quirks, though. It runs in the sidebar. It doesn't hide the top tabs (though you can do this with Stylish). It has its own menu for tabs which does not include some options (like send tab to device). There was a very good non-nested side-tabs extension in Firefox Test Pilot, but it has expired.
  - vetinari 9y ago
    Tab Center (the extension from Test Pilot that expired) is not an WebExtension. It is a classic extension that will stop working in FF56. Yes, I'm using it ;)
bloaf 9y ago
Sure. But in practice everyone is just going to make extensions that are compatible with "all" the browsers, and there are developers who have simply decided not to rewrite their firefox extensions. http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html
- johnny22 9y ago
  doubtful, otherwise folks woudldn't have spent so much time on stuff like sqlitebrowser and other bits.

richardboegli 9y ago

Try Pale Moon, it's great. They are keeping the current Extension model.

digi_owl 9y ago
However long that will last. They are already considering rebasing on a newer Firefox codebase for their UXP plans.
- richardboegli 9y ago
  Quoted below is from Pale Moon roadmap [0] Long-term plans Our long-term plans for Pale Moon involve (potentially) moving our browser to the UXP (Unified XUL Platform) that is currently being worked on alongside the browser. This will at its earliest be somewhere in 2018. Plug-ins Pale Moon supports NPAPI plug-ins. Unlike Firefox, we will not be deprecating or removing support for these kinds of plug-ins. This means that you will be able to continue using your media, authentication, and other plug-ins in Pale Moon like Flash, Silverlight, bank-authenticators or networking plug-ins for specific purposes. [0]: https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml