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Crash test results: 0 stars https://youtu.be/jePu-6TxypI https://youtu.be/jePu-6TxypI Reminds me of the Tata Nano (also 0 stars): https://youtu.be/buMXtGoHHIg
by krishicks 9y ago
Crash test results: 0 stars
https://youtu.be/jePu-6TxypI https://youtu.be/jePu-6TxypI
Reminds me of the Tata Nano (also 0 stars): https://youtu.be/buMXtGoHHIg https://youtu.be/buMXtGoHHIg
- rokhayakebe 9y agoMotorcycle Crash Test Results? Yet still a great way for some to commute.
- rhcom2 9y agoJesus, the steering wheel in both of the videos comes right at the drivers chest. Also Volkswagen was selling the Polo in India without airbags??
- abawany 9y agoI have a hard time understanding why 60+ years of knowledge about safety cells is ignored in this design-to-cost. I don't know how much more the cost of this car would have been in materials if reasonable attention had been paid to maintaining the integrity of the passenger compartment.
- gozur88 9y agoI imagine if they could make a $4k car that's as safe as what you find in the US and Europe they would be sold in the US and Europe.
- abawany 9y agoI have a hard time imagining that 6k of the remaining cost (a basic car in the US can be had at $10k) would be because of a decent safety standard. I am curious to know how much more than $4k this Renault would be if they had spent a little time designing a safer passenger cell.
- LoSboccacc 9y agoDon't airbag alone cost 1k each? Also steel anti intrusion bars costs, increase weight, which requires a larger engine etc.
- ceejayoz 9y agoSafety requirements will easily hit that. Replacing airbags alone after an accident costs $3-5k. The crash test videos posted up-thread show there's a lot more than just airbags lacking, too.
- abawany 9y agoI don't think I ever asked that the car have airbags - with this car's atrociously weak passenger cell, an airbag would probably create more harm. All I am surprised by is the poor passenger cell that collapsed like it was made of pasta and everything in my comments has been directed to hoping they will redesign this thing to not collapse in a crash.
- abawany 9y agoCompare this to a 80s Mercedes 190: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1GNfA_AnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1GNfA_AnU . The passenger cell remains solid though the crash dummies experience injuries. I often wonder how much better the automotive market would be if solid designs remained in circulation instead of these new-old mistakes re-entering the market every time.
- ceejayoz 9y agoThose solid designs mean much higher impact forces on the passengers. Crumple zones are a significant part of why modern cars are more survivable in accidents. You just don't want to make the passenger part of the crumple zone, which appears to be what Renault has done here.
- abawany 9y agoTrue, that was my point. The front of the 190 collapses significantly while the passenger compartment remained stable, which is quite unlike the Renault. From my reads on the evolution of automotive safety, it seems that the core lesson that was learnt from the aviation industry was to make sure the passenger compartment integrity was maintained first and foremost.
- arprocter 9y agoA 190 in 80s India probably cost quite a bit more than the equivalent of $4k
- abawany 9y agoThat's not the point I was making. I am saying that the design principles of good design, especially for safety, should be well known now that decades have passed. Two additional points: 1. Can a 190 of that vintage be had for $4k now? IMO, that is a better investment than the Renault. 2. Could a car company license to build that 190 in India now at a low cost? That would have saved a lot of the design cost and provided folks a safe design.
- regnerba 9y agoOh wow, that was worse than I expected. Driver just gets destroyed.
- woodandsteel 9y agoYea, but if you made it safe, it would be too expensive for most of the target market to buy. This is the developing world. The same thing happens everywhere, a country goes through a period of wild-west capitalism, then, if things go well, eventually it gets rich enough to be able to afford things like safe products, worker safety laws, a social safety net, and so on. I am not aware of any country that has gone straight from non-industrialized to safe industrialization.
- cloudwalking 9y agoSeems like a bad comparison to a Tesla then, no? Nothing but click bait.
- kllrnohj 9y agoFYI the article's real title is "Why This $4,000 Renault Is as Disruptive as the Tesla Model 3"
- woodandsteel 9y agoThe article is arguing that the $4k Renault is as disruptive in India as the Tesla is in the US. That seems like a reasonable claim.
- LoSboccacc 9y agoTata Nano ($1600 equivalent) didn't disrupt a thing, why would this?
- sangnoir 9y agoIf you had read the article, you would know Renault's answer to this question.
- LoSboccacc 9y agoIf the issue is cars being status symbol being fancy but cheap won't help and won't make it desiderable nor a status symbol anymore than a dirt cheap rolex would
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- olegkikin 9y agoAlso remember that the NCAP crash tests are done at 40 MPH, so it's a suicide car even at low speeds. For that money I'd rather buy a used Toyota with actual airbags.
- Steko 9y agoStill safer than the scooter it's replacing?
- zer0tonin 9y agoDoesn't look so much safer if a 40 mph crash is enough to throw the steering wheel across your chest.