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This isn't a 'journal' in any sense of what the word implies when referring to published materials. There's no peer review, probably no editorial board. Blog is

This isn't a 'journal' in any sense of what the word implies when referring to published materials. There's no peer review, probably no editorial board. Blog is appropriate.

azag0 9y ago
I agree. I think the closest word from the nondigital era to a "blog" would a "bulletin".
cel1ne 9y ago
It's a journal in the sense of a scientific diary/notebook. That is also my first association. The word "journal" comes from french "jour" which translates to "day". The word blog comes from log which original comes from tabular record-keeping of ship speed.
taco_emoji 9y ago
Nobody called it scientific journal. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/journal http://www.dictionary.com/browse/journal: 1. a daily record, as of occurrences, experiences, or observations[...] 3. a periodical or magazine, especially one published for a special group, learned society, or profession[...] 4. a record, usually daily, of the proceedings and transactions of a legislative body, an organization, etc.
- _delirium 9y ago
  The phrase "machine learning journal" strongly implies academic journal to most machine learning researchers though, in part because that is actually in the name of several journals in the field. I don't think Apple is unaware of that either. This reads to me as quite deliberately playing on that association, to upgrade the prestige of the stuff published here vs. what it'd have if it were just a blog.
  - dgacmu 9y ago
    The first post is actually a summary of a CVPR paper by Apple employees. For those not familiar with it, CVPR is a top conference in computer vision.[0] Recall, of course, that "conference" for much of computer science implies the same length and degree of peer review as "journal" does in non-CS fields. [0] http://cvpr2017.thecvf.com/ http://cvpr2017.thecvf.com/
    - wuliwong 9y ago
      I don't think that really matters. If I only post really worthy articles in my blog it doesn't become a scientific journal. I'm not saying that I believe peer-reviewed journals are the end-all-be-all for science but it does seem like Apple is being misleading with this. edit---------- Although, a company publishing a peer-reviewed scientific journal like Nature would be surprising. So maybe that isn't the common interpretation when they see the title. Maybe it isn't totally misleading. I guess I'm split on it. :)
      - Evelyn656 9y ago
        I get paid over $95 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with this is endless. Heres what I've been doing, •••••••••>>(ＷＷＷ.joinmate2.ＣＯＭ)
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      - dgacmu 9y ago
        I should have quoted. The person I was replying to originally said that "apple won't let it's researchers publish in real journals", and then stealth-rdited their post.
      - _delirium 9y ago
        It's not common, but also not unheard of for companies to organize properly peer-reviewed journals for their internal research. The two most famous are probably the Bell System Technical Journal and the IBM Journal of Research and Development. From the title I was expecting Apple to be continuing in that tradition, but it seems they aren't.
- sithadmin 9y ago
  It isn't 1: They're not publishing their ML researchers' daily activities and experiences. It isn't 2: This isn't what would be generally understood as a 'periodical' or 'magazine'. It doesn't even resemble the trade publications that are often published by larger businesses. It certainly isn't 4 - Apple isn't giving away terribly detailed accounts of their research activities.
  - TheSoftwareGuy 9y ago
    The meanings of words isn't set in stone, rather they change over time. As long as people generally interpret the message close to how it was intended to be interpreted, it's fine.
- ozansener 9y ago
  If nobody called it scientific journal why it has volumes and issues? I think Vol. 1, Issue 1 simply suggest they see it as a scientific journal.
dgacmu 9y ago
From a historical perspective, so is "Journal" -- it harkens back to the days of things like the Bell System Technical Journal (published from 1922 to 1983), the IBM Systems Journal, etc.
- _delirium 9y ago
  Bell System Technical Journal really was run like a scientific journal though, with the exception that it was "internal" to Bell. It had an editor in chief, an editorial board, papers had to be submitted for review and possibly revised before publication, etc. And the Bell Labs scientific community was large and diverse enough that I'd be comfortable calling their process peer review even though it was all done internally.
jolux 9y ago
I read it as "journal" as in like a personal journal.
rrmm 9y ago
The proper name I think would be "Technical Reports." Not terribly catchy. But journal does make it sound like they are pretending to be science-y.
niho 9y ago
Journal does not imply peer reviewed. The word originates from Latin and simply means "daily". I.e. a periodical publication. An academic journal can be peer reviewed but that's not always the case.
- wuliwong 9y ago
  It's interesting to understand the roots of words but in this case I think the relevant information to be considered is how the word is generally understood today in the context that it is currently presented.
freshyill 9y ago
Not even a DOI.
kgwgk 9y ago
Have you heard of the Linux Journal?

This isn't a 'journal' in any sense of what the word implies when referring to published materials. There's no peer review, probably no editorial board. Blog is appropriate.

azag0 9y ago

I agree. I think the closest word from the nondigital era to a "blog" would a "bulletin".

cel1ne 9y ago

It's a journal in the sense of a scientific diary/notebook. That is also my first association. The word "journal" comes from french "jour" which translates to "day". The word blog comes from log which original comes from tabular record-keeping of ship speed.

taco_emoji 9y ago

Nobody called it scientific journal. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/journal http://www.dictionary.com/browse/journal: 1. a daily record, as of occurrences, experiences, or observations[...] 3. a periodical or magazine, especially one published for a special group, learned society, or profession[...] 4. a record, usually daily, of the proceedings and transactions of a legislative body, an organization, etc.

_delirium 9y ago
The phrase "machine learning journal" strongly implies academic journal to most machine learning researchers though, in part because that is actually in the name of several journals in the field. I don't think Apple is unaware of that either. This reads to me as quite deliberately playing on that association, to upgrade the prestige of the stuff published here vs. what it'd have if it were just a blog.
- dgacmu 9y ago
  The first post is actually a summary of a CVPR paper by Apple employees. For those not familiar with it, CVPR is a top conference in computer vision.[0] Recall, of course, that "conference" for much of computer science implies the same length and degree of peer review as "journal" does in non-CS fields. [0] http://cvpr2017.thecvf.com/ http://cvpr2017.thecvf.com/
  - wuliwong 9y ago
    I don't think that really matters. If I only post really worthy articles in my blog it doesn't become a scientific journal. I'm not saying that I believe peer-reviewed journals are the end-all-be-all for science but it does seem like Apple is being misleading with this. edit---------- Although, a company publishing a peer-reviewed scientific journal like Nature would be surprising. So maybe that isn't the common interpretation when they see the title. Maybe it isn't totally misleading. I guess I'm split on it. :)
    - Evelyn656 9y ago
      I get paid over $95 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with this is endless. Heres what I've been doing, •••••••••>>(ＷＷＷ.joinmate2.ＣＯＭ)
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
    - dgacmu 9y ago
      I should have quoted. The person I was replying to originally said that "apple won't let it's researchers publish in real journals", and then stealth-rdited their post.
    - _delirium 9y ago
      It's not common, but also not unheard of for companies to organize properly peer-reviewed journals for their internal research. The two most famous are probably the Bell System Technical Journal and the IBM Journal of Research and Development. From the title I was expecting Apple to be continuing in that tradition, but it seems they aren't.
sithadmin 9y ago
It isn't 1: They're not publishing their ML researchers' daily activities and experiences. It isn't 2: This isn't what would be generally understood as a 'periodical' or 'magazine'. It doesn't even resemble the trade publications that are often published by larger businesses. It certainly isn't 4 - Apple isn't giving away terribly detailed accounts of their research activities.
- TheSoftwareGuy 9y ago
  The meanings of words isn't set in stone, rather they change over time. As long as people generally interpret the message close to how it was intended to be interpreted, it's fine.
ozansener 9y ago
If nobody called it scientific journal why it has volumes and issues? I think Vol. 1, Issue 1 simply suggest they see it as a scientific journal.

dgacmu 9y ago

From a historical perspective, so is "Journal" -- it harkens back to the days of things like the Bell System Technical Journal (published from 1922 to 1983), the IBM Systems Journal, etc.

_delirium 9y ago
Bell System Technical Journal really was run like a scientific journal though, with the exception that it was "internal" to Bell. It had an editor in chief, an editorial board, papers had to be submitted for review and possibly revised before publication, etc. And the Bell Labs scientific community was large and diverse enough that I'd be comfortable calling their process peer review even though it was all done internally.

jolux 9y ago

I read it as "journal" as in like a personal journal.

rrmm 9y ago

The proper name I think would be "Technical Reports." Not terribly catchy. But journal does make it sound like they are pretending to be science-y.

niho 9y ago

Journal does not imply peer reviewed. The word originates from Latin and simply means "daily". I.e. a periodical publication. An academic journal can be peer reviewed but that's not always the case.

wuliwong 9y ago
It's interesting to understand the roots of words but in this case I think the relevant information to be considered is how the word is generally understood today in the context that it is currently presented.

freshyill 9y ago

Not even a DOI.

kgwgk 9y ago

Have you heard of the Linux Journal?