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Firstly, 55% is not greater than the maximum tax rate one could pay on income (especially in CA) [1]. Secondly, you understand that RSUs (restricted stock unit

by Denzel 9y ago

Firstly, 55% is not greater than the maximum tax rate one could pay on income (especially in CA) [1]. Secondly, you understand that RSUs (restricted stock units) are taxed as normal W-2 income at the time of vesting, right! You pay capital-gains tax on any appreciation in value after said vesting -- should you choose to sell the stock. You should probably stop spreading misinformation on topics you don't have experience in. [1]: https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator

dragonwriter 9y ago
> Firstly, 55% is not greater than the maximum tax rate one could pay on income But it is, AFAICT, greater than the maximum marginal income tax rate [0]; since the deduction affects only income taxes and not other taxes on income, it is the maximum marginal income tax rate, not the maximum marginal rate of taxation on income, that is relevant. > Secondly, you understand that RSUs (restricted stock units) are taxed as normal W-2 income at the time of vesting Yes, I do. That doesn't change anything I said. People that are making hundreds of millions of dollars of income in a year aren't making it from RSU vesting, or any other source of income subject to regular income taxes. [0] just barely; the maximum marginal income tax rate in any US jurisdiction seems to be 39.6% federal + 13.3% CA state + 1.5% SF local, or 54.4%.
- Denzel 9y ago
  Uhm, they do make significant (>$40MM) amounts of money from cash+RSU compensation. [1-5] That's literally what you can find with a cursory search; no digging. Furthermore, the tax writeoff carries through 5 years since it was a stock donation. And sure, use 54.4% instead of 55%. Don't miss the forest for the trees though. [1]: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/28/google-ceo-sundar-pichais-compensation-doubled-in-2016-to-200-million.html http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/28/google-ceo-sundar-pichais-com... [2]: http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/technology/twitter-omid-kordestani-google-chairman/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/technology/twitter-omid-kord... [3]: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/googles-sundar-pichai-is-likely-the-highest-paid-ceo-2017-04-29 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/googles-sundar-pichai-is-li... [4]: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1288776/000130817913000248/lgoogle_def14a.htm#_N12358 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1288776/000130817913... [5]: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000130817916000384/lgoog_def14a.htm#lgooga045 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000130817916...

by Denzel 9y ago

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Firstly, 55% is not greater than the maximum tax rate one could pay on income But it is, AFAICT, greater than the maximum marginal income tax rate [0]; since the deduction affects only income taxes and not other taxes on income, it is the maximum marginal income tax rate, not the maximum marginal rate of taxation on income, that is relevant. > Secondly, you understand that RSUs (restricted stock units) are taxed as normal W-2 income at the time of vesting Yes, I do. That doesn't change anything I said. People that are making hundreds of millions of dollars of income in a year aren't making it from RSU vesting, or any other source of income subject to regular income taxes. [0] just barely; the maximum marginal income tax rate in any US jurisdiction seems to be 39.6% federal + 13.3% CA state + 1.5% SF local, or 54.4%.

Denzel 9y ago
Uhm, they do make significant (>$40MM) amounts of money from cash+RSU compensation. [1-5] That's literally what you can find with a cursory search; no digging. Furthermore, the tax writeoff carries through 5 years since it was a stock donation. And sure, use 54.4% instead of 55%. Don't miss the forest for the trees though. [1]: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/28/google-ceo-sundar-pichais-compensation-doubled-in-2016-to-200-million.html http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/28/google-ceo-sundar-pichais-com... [2]: http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/technology/twitter-omid-kordestani-google-chairman/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/technology/twitter-omid-kord... [3]: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/googles-sundar-pichai-is-likely-the-highest-paid-ceo-2017-04-29 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/googles-sundar-pichai-is-li... [4]: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1288776/000130817913000248/lgoogle_def14a.htm#_N12358 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1288776/000130817913... [5]: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000130817916000384/lgoog_def14a.htm#lgooga045 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000130817916...