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No it isn't. They are telling you what they want it to be. I'm sure Uber has/had a similar manifesto. Do you think they put in the whole sexual harassment in t

No it isn't. They are telling you what they want it to be. I'm sure Uber has/had a similar manifesto. Do you think they put in the whole sexual harassment in that document. It's like a government writing what the culture of a country should be. You really need blind interviews to know what the culture is.

tomkarlo 9y ago
Uber did in fact have a doc with 14 key guidelines, but with drastically different contents. "Step on toes", "always be hustling" etc. The harassment issue wasn't so much a cultural value as an organizational failure that partially resulted from not valuing general respect for other employees, which when carried to its extreme means tolerating behavior that would be unacceptable at other companies. It also reportedly had a general culture of looking for ways to circumvent government rules, which is also going to undermine your ability to discourage harassment. See: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/07/uber-work-culture-travis-kalanick-susan-fowler-controversy https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/07/uber-work... Yes, it's possible that guidelines misrepresent a company's culture. But it seems unfair and arguably, unproductive, to presume that. It's an open statement of what they want their culture to be, which seems a lot better than simply not having any goal at all. Are you really saying you'd prefer to work for a company that doesn't think about what its internal culture and values should be?
- agentgt 9y ago
  > Are you really saying you'd prefer to work for a company that doesn't think about what its internal culture maybe.... kidding. culture is really hard to define. But yes your point is taken but my point is by defining concrete things you can create a culture. For example one concrete thing could be a company that says our top level executives or performers are only paid 3x than the lowest paid employee. That would indicate a lot more to me than the fluff that Stripe wrote. > and values should be? I absolutely care about this. This IMO is different than culture (or maybe they overlap). You can have intense high work ethic culture that have many of the big picture same values as one that does not (one example would be school systems). You can also have very similar companies in goals and values in completely different areas of the world that have completely different culture because naturally that region has a different culture. That being said you make valid points.

tomkarlo 9y ago

Uber did in fact have a doc with 14 key guidelines, but with drastically different contents. "Step on toes", "always be hustling" etc. The harassment issue wasn't so much a cultural value as an organizational failure that partially resulted from not valuing general respect for other employees, which when carried to its extreme means tolerating behavior that would be unacceptable at other companies. It also reportedly had a general culture of looking for ways to circumvent government rules, which is also going to undermine your ability to discourage harassment. See: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/07/uber-work-culture-travis-kalanick-susan-fowler-controversy https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/07/uber-work... Yes, it's possible that guidelines misrepresent a company's culture. But it seems unfair and arguably, unproductive, to presume that. It's an open statement of what they want their culture to be, which seems a lot better than simply not having any goal at all. Are you really saying you'd prefer to work for a company that doesn't think about what its internal culture and values should be?

agentgt 9y ago
> Are you really saying you'd prefer to work for a company that doesn't think about what its internal culture maybe.... kidding. culture is really hard to define. But yes your point is taken but my point is by defining concrete things you can create a culture. For example one concrete thing could be a company that says our top level executives or performers are only paid 3x than the lowest paid employee. That would indicate a lot more to me than the fluff that Stripe wrote. > and values should be? I absolutely care about this. This IMO is different than culture (or maybe they overlap). You can have intense high work ethic culture that have many of the big picture same values as one that does not (one example would be school systems). You can also have very similar companies in goals and values in completely different areas of the world that have completely different culture because naturally that region has a different culture. That being said you make valid points.