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EliRivers 9y ago
I'm glad people like him weren't allowed in our country. What country do you come from that denies entry to people based on how they translate Japanese signs? You're full of shit. Not surprised you hide behind a throwaway.
- ThrowAway29112 9y ago
  Are you for real? Go read the article, he knows Japanese. And there's your civility, acting all indignant and calling people full of shit without bothering to understand what's going on. Maybe you are the throwaway of author's?
  - dang 9y ago
    We've banned this account for trolling, and since you've done this repeatedly, we've banned what I believe to be your main account as well. If you don't want to be banned on HN, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and promise that this will never happen again.
  - EliRivers 9y ago
    Civility? I made no guarantee of civility to you. I asked you what country you come from that excludes people based on, as you stated, how they interpret Japanese signs. No such country, as we all know. You're talking nonsense, and now that you've been called out on it, you're pretending this is about something else. Look at you now, deleting your comments even though you're using a throwaway! The whole point of the throwaway is that nobody can tie it to the person you usually pretend to be, but you're running away anyway. Nobody benefits from this; not you, not me, nobody here. God's sake, owning your beliefs is a necessary step to improving them. Not just in this situation; always. Here, look, I'll start; I was unnecessarily harsh in my opening response and could have handled that better. This is an opportunity for both of us to improve. I didn't consider that you might be Japanese and that you might feel defensive; it can be hard to critique your own nation/culture with foreigners (although being from the UK, it's easy for me; sometimes it would be nice to spend a day without having some new clusterf from the embarrassing shambles of a UK government and broader population at large) and perhaps I could have helped you come out of your defensive shell.
    - zdkl 9y ago
      Rule #1: bow out of situations bearing risks of public shame.
- dang 9y ago
  Would you please not break the HN guidelines by being uncivil? Just because someone else is destroying this site doesn't mean it's ok to do so as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
Accacin 9y ago
>Because Chinese are the largest tourist group. And everyone knows they are rowdy as shit. >Tries to lump everything into one Yeah, you're doing the same thing.
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zdkl 9y ago
See, this is precisely the issue with Japan. "Oh look, author has not upheld himself to the highest level of restraint and mastery, he must be a quack" This is how you breed deep, lasting resentment. We don't want to become like you but we do want to respect your way of life when we're visiting. If that's not good enough, you should reconsider your connection to the rest of the world. It seems the wests' "When in Rome, do as the romans" attitude is not appreciated or shared elsewhere. Yes we have obnoxious, loud outliers, but good god I have been on the cleaning end of japanese visitors and their general, passive contempt towards their hosts and way of life. (Cue devasted restrooms flashback) If you want a baka gaijin's 2 cents, which I doubt: Don't dig yourself into irrelevance again with the insular mindset. You're a country of many marvels but as a people, I'm hard pressed to find anyone who actually knows what he's talking about that likes you. [EDIT: copy of parents oriunal message] The author is a cheat - the sign says "No chinese allowed". Because Chinese are the largest tourist group. And everyone knows they are rowdy as shit. But the author, who takes a lot of care to explain all Japanese symbols, doesn't explain that. Tries to lump everthing into one. I'm glad people like him weren't allowed in our country.

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I'm glad people like him weren't allowed in our country. What country do you come from that denies entry to people based on how they translate Japanese signs? You're full of shit. Not surprised you hide behind a throwaway.

ThrowAway29112 9y ago
Are you for real? Go read the article, he knows Japanese. And there's your civility, acting all indignant and calling people full of shit without bothering to understand what's going on. Maybe you are the throwaway of author's?
- dang 9y ago
  We've banned this account for trolling, and since you've done this repeatedly, we've banned what I believe to be your main account as well. If you don't want to be banned on HN, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and promise that this will never happen again.
- EliRivers 9y ago
  Civility? I made no guarantee of civility to you. I asked you what country you come from that excludes people based on, as you stated, how they interpret Japanese signs. No such country, as we all know. You're talking nonsense, and now that you've been called out on it, you're pretending this is about something else. Look at you now, deleting your comments even though you're using a throwaway! The whole point of the throwaway is that nobody can tie it to the person you usually pretend to be, but you're running away anyway. Nobody benefits from this; not you, not me, nobody here. God's sake, owning your beliefs is a necessary step to improving them. Not just in this situation; always. Here, look, I'll start; I was unnecessarily harsh in my opening response and could have handled that better. This is an opportunity for both of us to improve. I didn't consider that you might be Japanese and that you might feel defensive; it can be hard to critique your own nation/culture with foreigners (although being from the UK, it's easy for me; sometimes it would be nice to spend a day without having some new clusterf from the embarrassing shambles of a UK government and broader population at large) and perhaps I could have helped you come out of your defensive shell.
  - zdkl 9y ago
    Rule #1: bow out of situations bearing risks of public shame.
dang 9y ago
Would you please not break the HN guidelines by being uncivil? Just because someone else is destroying this site doesn't mean it's ok to do so as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

Accacin 9y ago

>Because Chinese are the largest tourist group. And everyone knows they are rowdy as shit. >Tries to lump everything into one Yeah, you're doing the same thing.

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zdkl 9y ago

See, this is precisely the issue with Japan. "Oh look, author has not upheld himself to the highest level of restraint and mastery, he must be a quack" This is how you breed deep, lasting resentment. We don't want to become like you but we do want to respect your way of life when we're visiting. If that's not good enough, you should reconsider your connection to the rest of the world. It seems the wests' "When in Rome, do as the romans" attitude is not appreciated or shared elsewhere. Yes we have obnoxious, loud outliers, but good god I have been on the cleaning end of japanese visitors and their general, passive contempt towards their hosts and way of life. (Cue devasted restrooms flashback) If you want a baka gaijin's 2 cents, which I doubt: Don't dig yourself into irrelevance again with the insular mindset. You're a country of many marvels but as a people, I'm hard pressed to find anyone who actually knows what he's talking about that likes you. [EDIT: copy of parents oriunal message] The author is a cheat - the sign says "No chinese allowed". Because Chinese are the largest tourist group. And everyone knows they are rowdy as shit. But the author, who takes a lot of care to explain all Japanese symbols, doesn't explain that. Tries to lump everthing into one. I'm glad people like him weren't allowed in our country.