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I've had no problems with latency, but I'd like to add something not in the original article as a latency-adjacent consideration: stability. Stability is an inc

I've had no problems with latency, but I'd like to add something not in the original article as a latency-adjacent consideration: stability. Stability is an incredibly important attribute, since the output rate of a dead terminal is zero. I switched to iTerm2 recently after repeated Terminal.app slowdowns and crashes, and have no issues doing the exact same things I did in the previous application. Good work.

eridius 9y ago
> I switched to iTerm2 recently after repeated Terminal.app slowdowns and crashes Wow, what were you doing? I think I've seen maybe one Terminal.app crash in the past few years, and I'm a very heavy terminal user.
- nneonneo 9y ago
  I second that - I've never seen Terminal.app outright _crash_. The one thing that will hang it is copying MBs of text out of the buffer, but even then it doesn't crash (just stall for a long time).
- SomeHacker44 9y ago
  I had the same problem. After using terminal.app exclusively for literally 13 years it became unstable and unusable for me on the new Touch Bar Mac and I switched to iTerm2. That is a noticeably slower program, especially with a big scroll back, but at least it's stable! I have no idea what the cause of the instability was but I couldn't fix it and couldn't tolerate it.
  - ckw 9y ago
    I had a similar issue recently with a touch bar mac. It would crash pretty reliably when deleting lines during interactive rebases. This was in tmux with EDITOR=vim, hitting dd.
  - eridius 9y ago
    You might be happy to know that macOS 10.12.6 (released today) says it "Improves the stability of Terminal app".
- falsedan 9y ago
  I got multiple segfaults from Terminal.app when scrolling back in bash history inside tmux for very long commands (ones which would wrap). This was only on the recent MacOS beta & I haven’t seen it since the last point release.
- jcranberry 9y ago
  had this problem extensively recently using ssh when text fills the entire terminal.
- eridius 9y ago
  Looks like macOS 10.12.6 (released today) says it "Improves the stability of Terminal app".

eridius 9y ago

> I switched to iTerm2 recently after repeated Terminal.app slowdowns and crashes Wow, what were you doing? I think I've seen maybe one Terminal.app crash in the past few years, and I'm a very heavy terminal user.

nneonneo 9y ago
I second that - I've never seen Terminal.app outright _crash_. The one thing that will hang it is copying MBs of text out of the buffer, but even then it doesn't crash (just stall for a long time).
SomeHacker44 9y ago
I had the same problem. After using terminal.app exclusively for literally 13 years it became unstable and unusable for me on the new Touch Bar Mac and I switched to iTerm2. That is a noticeably slower program, especially with a big scroll back, but at least it's stable! I have no idea what the cause of the instability was but I couldn't fix it and couldn't tolerate it.
- ckw 9y ago
  I had a similar issue recently with a touch bar mac. It would crash pretty reliably when deleting lines during interactive rebases. This was in tmux with EDITOR=vim, hitting dd.
- eridius 9y ago
  You might be happy to know that macOS 10.12.6 (released today) says it "Improves the stability of Terminal app".
falsedan 9y ago
I got multiple segfaults from Terminal.app when scrolling back in bash history inside tmux for very long commands (ones which would wrap). This was only on the recent MacOS beta & I haven’t seen it since the last point release.
jcranberry 9y ago
had this problem extensively recently using ssh when text fills the entire terminal.
eridius 9y ago
Looks like macOS 10.12.6 (released today) says it "Improves the stability of Terminal app".