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Oh yes, the EPA and Department of Labor, with their obnoxious "don't fuck up the environment" and "don't treat people like shit" rules. God damn them.

donw 16y ago
Seriously. I mean, when has a private, for-profit corporate entity not been a responsible steward of the environment?
anamax 16y ago
That would be the EPA that is blocking the use of many oil skimmers in the Gulf and forcing the ones that they approve to run at about 1/6th efficiency. And that's the department of labor that is keeping experienced crews from running the skimmers that the EPA approves. I forget which department decided that oil in sensitive wetlands was better than putting up sand berms.
- cia_plant 16y ago
  Citation?
  - Aaronontheweb 16y ago
    Seriously? Have you been living in a cave for the past two weeks? Try using Google. Ok you know what - I'll do it: The sandberms fiasco was the work of the Fish and Wildlife Service: http://www.wdsu.com/news/23997498/detail.html http://www.wdsu.com/news/23997498/detail.html The "A-Whale" fiasco appears to be a joint fail between the Coast Guard and the EPA - among many other things they've had to sit around and wait for an EPA permit before they can start the work, and now that they're actually in the gulf there are even more problems: http://www.dailypress.com/news/oil-spill/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-20100625,0,3072230.story http://www.dailypress.com/news/oil-spill/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-... http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/A-Whale-Of-A-Skimmer-Ready-For-Action-In-BP-Spill-97625959.html http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/A-Whale-Of-A-Skimme...
    - cia_plant 16y ago
      Well, that does have something to do with oil skimmers, and something to do with the EPA, but it doesn't support what anamax said. Obviously I did search google for terms like "EPA oil skimmer", which came up with this "A Whale" stuff and little else - so I was wondering if anamax had a source which addressed his particular claims (apparently not). The sand berms thing seems to be inaccurately paraphrased by anamax as well.
  - anamax 16y ago
    http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m6d12-US-reconsiders-Dutch-offer-to-supply-oil-skimmers http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m... You can also Google "Jones Act". Suppose that my original post hadclaimed that Obama was doing a great job and offered comparable support. Would you have asked for citations?

donw 16y ago

Seriously. I mean, when has a private, for-profit corporate entity not been a responsible steward of the environment?

anamax 16y ago

That would be the EPA that is blocking the use of many oil skimmers in the Gulf and forcing the ones that they approve to run at about 1/6th efficiency. And that's the department of labor that is keeping experienced crews from running the skimmers that the EPA approves. I forget which department decided that oil in sensitive wetlands was better than putting up sand berms.

cia_plant 16y ago
Citation?
- Aaronontheweb 16y ago
  Seriously? Have you been living in a cave for the past two weeks? Try using Google. Ok you know what - I'll do it: The sandberms fiasco was the work of the Fish and Wildlife Service: http://www.wdsu.com/news/23997498/detail.html http://www.wdsu.com/news/23997498/detail.html The "A-Whale" fiasco appears to be a joint fail between the Coast Guard and the EPA - among many other things they've had to sit around and wait for an EPA permit before they can start the work, and now that they're actually in the gulf there are even more problems: http://www.dailypress.com/news/oil-spill/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-20100625,0,3072230.story http://www.dailypress.com/news/oil-spill/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-... http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/A-Whale-Of-A-Skimmer-Ready-For-Action-In-BP-Spill-97625959.html http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/A-Whale-Of-A-Skimme...
  - cia_plant 16y ago
    Well, that does have something to do with oil skimmers, and something to do with the EPA, but it doesn't support what anamax said. Obviously I did search google for terms like "EPA oil skimmer", which came up with this "A Whale" stuff and little else - so I was wondering if anamax had a source which addressed his particular claims (apparently not). The sand berms thing seems to be inaccurately paraphrased by anamax as well.
- anamax 16y ago
  http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m6d12-US-reconsiders-Dutch-offer-to-supply-oil-skimmers http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m... You can also Google "Jones Act". Suppose that my original post hadclaimed that Obama was doing a great job and offered comparable support. Would you have asked for citations?