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To solve said problem don't give the # out. Burner phones are for you to use and dispose of, not keep and use as a primary daily phone.

holtalanm 9y ago
isn't the purpose of a burner phone....to give the # out?
- ozfive 9y ago
  That is what this tutorial is advocating. Don't get me wrong this is a great project to explore kotlin and twilio. But ultimately a very expensive one if your number gets sold to a lot of other companies.
problems 9y ago
Interesting, unless I'm missing something Twilio's pricing does not include any unlimited incoming model. From other VoIP providers, you can get that pretty easily. I use voip.ms and they charge $4.25/mo for a number and unlimited incoming.
- Nexxxeh 9y ago
  There isn't an unlimited package to normal users afaik. But calls are cheap. If you only want a number for a month, thats $1. Leaving $3.25 worth of calls at $0.05 (0.01 incoming, 0.04 back out to your cell) a minute forwarded to a mobile to match. Over an hour of calls, which I wouldn't hit on a gumtree advert. That $4.25 presumably doesn't include the outbound leg, does it? Twilio also do SIP registration, so you can route calls to your handset via SIP even more cheaply. (0.004 for outbound, so 0.01 and 0.004, for over 3.5 hours for that $3.25. There are definitely usage cases for unlimited, but I don't think this is necessarily one of them unless you have a ridiculously high call volume. At that stage, I'd just use the voicemail to email Twimlet and bounce everyone into that.
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  - problems 9y ago
    So, for per-minute SIP calls: Twilio - 0.0125 in 0.017 out voip.ms - 0.09 in 0.005 out Of course, the unlimited plan is only useful for a select few - if you want to plug it into your PBX and use it as a small support line (could be this case) or if you're making nightly calls for a few hours to relatives or a significant other, it's quite possibly worth it. Depends what you're going to use it for and if you want that Twilio API really. If you just want a SIP number, it's pretty clear, but if you want all those nice API features and don't need super high volume, Twilio is probably the way to go.
    - Nexxxeh 9y ago
      Yeah. Although there's something to be said for Twilio for straight up SIP too if you've got awkward fucking hardware. The Gigaset N300 is great, but the dialplan options are embarrassingly limited. Twilio offer their own hosted Node.js (Twilio Functions - BETA) and TwiML Bins (free super-basic TwiML hosting with basic moustache templates for simple variable insertion.) Pretty sure the whole project in the OP could have been done quicker and easier using Twilio Functions, but I get that it's more of a learning tutorial and example. I use a combination of TwiML Bins, Functions and Twimlets to quickly chain together powerful functionality. And to work around the N300 dialplan limitations! Edit: https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/230878368-How-to-use-templates-with-TwiML-Bins https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/230878368-How-t... https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/115007737928-Building-apps-with-Twilio-Functions https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/115007737928-Bu... https://www.twilio.com/labs/twimlets https://www.twilio.com/labs/twimlets

holtalanm 9y ago

isn't the purpose of a burner phone....to give the # out?

ozfive 9y ago
That is what this tutorial is advocating. Don't get me wrong this is a great project to explore kotlin and twilio. But ultimately a very expensive one if your number gets sold to a lot of other companies.

problems 9y ago

Interesting, unless I'm missing something Twilio's pricing does not include any unlimited incoming model. From other VoIP providers, you can get that pretty easily. I use voip.ms and they charge $4.25/mo for a number and unlimited incoming.

Nexxxeh 9y ago
There isn't an unlimited package to normal users afaik. But calls are cheap. If you only want a number for a month, thats $1. Leaving $3.25 worth of calls at $0.05 (0.01 incoming, 0.04 back out to your cell) a minute forwarded to a mobile to match. Over an hour of calls, which I wouldn't hit on a gumtree advert. That $4.25 presumably doesn't include the outbound leg, does it? Twilio also do SIP registration, so you can route calls to your handset via SIP even more cheaply. (0.004 for outbound, so 0.01 and 0.004, for over 3.5 hours for that $3.25. There are definitely usage cases for unlimited, but I don't think this is necessarily one of them unless you have a ridiculously high call volume. At that stage, I'd just use the voicemail to email Twimlet and bounce everyone into that.
- deleted 9y ago
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- problems 9y ago
  So, for per-minute SIP calls: Twilio - 0.0125 in 0.017 out voip.ms - 0.09 in 0.005 out Of course, the unlimited plan is only useful for a select few - if you want to plug it into your PBX and use it as a small support line (could be this case) or if you're making nightly calls for a few hours to relatives or a significant other, it's quite possibly worth it. Depends what you're going to use it for and if you want that Twilio API really. If you just want a SIP number, it's pretty clear, but if you want all those nice API features and don't need super high volume, Twilio is probably the way to go.
  - Nexxxeh 9y ago
    Yeah. Although there's something to be said for Twilio for straight up SIP too if you've got awkward fucking hardware. The Gigaset N300 is great, but the dialplan options are embarrassingly limited. Twilio offer their own hosted Node.js (Twilio Functions - BETA) and TwiML Bins (free super-basic TwiML hosting with basic moustache templates for simple variable insertion.) Pretty sure the whole project in the OP could have been done quicker and easier using Twilio Functions, but I get that it's more of a learning tutorial and example. I use a combination of TwiML Bins, Functions and Twimlets to quickly chain together powerful functionality. And to work around the N300 dialplan limitations! Edit: https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/230878368-How-to-use-templates-with-TwiML-Bins https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/230878368-How-t... https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/115007737928-Building-apps-with-Twilio-Functions https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/115007737928-Bu... https://www.twilio.com/labs/twimlets https://www.twilio.com/labs/twimlets