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Really? It doesn't seem that hard to understand what motivates Jeff Sessions--filling up private prisons and using police to terrorize poor and minority communi

Really? It doesn't seem that hard to understand what motivates Jeff Sessions--filling up private prisons and using police to terrorize poor and minority communities.

spoiledtechie 9y ago
a bit bias I think you are. I voted you down because this isn't a productive conversation.
- freddealmeida 9y ago
  the evidence speaks for itself. bias seems to be a norm in american politic
harpiaharpyja 9y ago
I suppose then the mystery has now shifted to why no one is seemingly doing anything about it? I hope that does not come across as sardonic. If a functional mechanism to curb these kinds of excesses does not exist anymore, that is something which we will have to come to terms with as a society.
sremani 9y ago
The nickname for (former AG under Obama) Loretta Lynch was Queen of Forfeiture, and has a body of work reflecting this when she was working in Brooklyn. It would be insane to think that civil forfeiture was not a problem the past 8 years.
- specializeded 9y ago
  Not a single person in this entire thread has claimed it wasn’t a problem the last 8 years. Be better.
  - wernercd 9y ago
    But there are quite a few people losing their minds now that the "other side" is continuing to do what's been done for years. Forfeiture, bombing the Middle East, travel bans, etc So much stuff the current Administration is doing that the last Administration did... and NOW people are losing their shit. Just a bit questionable for a large part of the conversation to be started now, eh?
    - specializeded 9y ago
      The travel “bans” are not equivalent, first off. Second, try using Reddit’s search function or Google’s trends app to see just how devastatingly demonstrably wrong your claims about interest in bombing the Middle East or civil asset forfeiture are. Sort of looks like you’re the only one who’s just now giving a shit, eh?
      - mcphage 9y ago
        > Sort of looks like you’re the only one who’s just now giving a shit, eh? And you'll note, they're not even giving a shit about asset forfeiture, or travel bans—they're giving a shit about people complaining about Trump.
      - wernercd 9y ago
        The Travel Bans are re-markedly similar... based on a list of countries by the previous Administration. Bombing the Middle East broke all records during the last Administration... not that this one won't continue to break records, but we were at war for the entire previous Administration and will probably remain so for this one... I know of many cases of CAF during the previous Administration. I'm sad that the current administration doesn't seem to be restoring law and order to the degree I had hoped they would. I've given a shit for a long time. I live in a heavily one-sided state and I sit on the other side - so, for the most part, my vote doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that the stuff people are RAGING MAD!!!! about is stuff that, for a large part, is no different from before. You can nit-pick over minor differences between Travel bans... but there was NO care about those bans for the 8 years prior. My main point here... is people pick a team... and then lose their shit when their team loses. What's important isn't the Travel Ban (or whatever). Whats important is the "Other Guy's Quarterback" is calling the plays. Even if they are the same plays "My Quarterback" would have chosen - or has chosen repeatedly - NOW we are going to "resist". The hypocrisy is maddening - from both "sides".
- Finnucane 9y ago
  It's been a problem. But to say 'let's double down on that' is not a solution, is it?
snsr 9y ago
It's now possible for a drug dealer to serve time in a forfeiture-financed prison after being arrested by agents driving a forfeiture-provided automobile while working in a forfeiture-funded sting operation. — Reagan attorney general Richard Thornburgh in 1989 Replace "drug dealer" with "minority individual" and this quote would be as accurate today as it was in 1989.

Really? It doesn't seem that hard to understand what motivates Jeff Sessions--filling up private prisons and using police to terrorize poor and minority communities.

spoiledtechie 9y ago

a bit bias I think you are. I voted you down because this isn't a productive conversation.

freddealmeida 9y ago
the evidence speaks for itself. bias seems to be a norm in american politic

harpiaharpyja 9y ago

I suppose then the mystery has now shifted to why no one is seemingly doing anything about it? I hope that does not come across as sardonic. If a functional mechanism to curb these kinds of excesses does not exist anymore, that is something which we will have to come to terms with as a society.

sremani 9y ago

The nickname for (former AG under Obama) Loretta Lynch was Queen of Forfeiture, and has a body of work reflecting this when she was working in Brooklyn. It would be insane to think that civil forfeiture was not a problem the past 8 years.

specializeded 9y ago
Not a single person in this entire thread has claimed it wasn’t a problem the last 8 years. Be better.
- wernercd 9y ago
  But there are quite a few people losing their minds now that the "other side" is continuing to do what's been done for years. Forfeiture, bombing the Middle East, travel bans, etc So much stuff the current Administration is doing that the last Administration did... and NOW people are losing their shit. Just a bit questionable for a large part of the conversation to be started now, eh?
  - specializeded 9y ago
    The travel “bans” are not equivalent, first off. Second, try using Reddit’s search function or Google’s trends app to see just how devastatingly demonstrably wrong your claims about interest in bombing the Middle East or civil asset forfeiture are. Sort of looks like you’re the only one who’s just now giving a shit, eh?
    - mcphage 9y ago
      > Sort of looks like you’re the only one who’s just now giving a shit, eh? And you'll note, they're not even giving a shit about asset forfeiture, or travel bans—they're giving a shit about people complaining about Trump.
    - wernercd 9y ago
      The Travel Bans are re-markedly similar... based on a list of countries by the previous Administration. Bombing the Middle East broke all records during the last Administration... not that this one won't continue to break records, but we were at war for the entire previous Administration and will probably remain so for this one... I know of many cases of CAF during the previous Administration. I'm sad that the current administration doesn't seem to be restoring law and order to the degree I had hoped they would. I've given a shit for a long time. I live in a heavily one-sided state and I sit on the other side - so, for the most part, my vote doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that the stuff people are RAGING MAD!!!! about is stuff that, for a large part, is no different from before. You can nit-pick over minor differences between Travel bans... but there was NO care about those bans for the 8 years prior. My main point here... is people pick a team... and then lose their shit when their team loses. What's important isn't the Travel Ban (or whatever). Whats important is the "Other Guy's Quarterback" is calling the plays. Even if they are the same plays "My Quarterback" would have chosen - or has chosen repeatedly - NOW we are going to "resist". The hypocrisy is maddening - from both "sides".
Finnucane 9y ago
It's been a problem. But to say 'let's double down on that' is not a solution, is it?

snsr 9y ago

It's now possible for a drug dealer to serve time in a forfeiture-financed prison after being arrested by agents driving a forfeiture-provided automobile while working in a forfeiture-funded sting operation. — Reagan attorney general Richard Thornburgh in 1989 Replace "drug dealer" with "minority individual" and this quote would be as accurate today as it was in 1989.