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> For the fixed network: - having a guaranteed minimum bandwidth is a utopia and the real upload bandwidth is around 20% of the declared Source? That's a rathe

> For the fixed network: - having a guaranteed minimum bandwidth is a utopia and the real upload bandwidth is around 20% of the declared Source? That's a rather bold claim. Are you talking about guaranteed bandwidth, or rather connection speed? What's usually really bad here is the "last mile". In my (little) experience the upload bandwidth (connecting at 15M/768k) has always been respected (Source: running an e-commerce business for 12 years). Of course YMMV.

tgragnato 9y ago
"YMMV" Indeed! As far as I know the business traffic is prioritised. That doesn't mean it's the average for home connections (the majority of users/customers). > The transmission speed is up to 7 Mbps in download and up to 384 Kbps in upload. Pursuant to Article 7, paragraph 4 of AGCom 244/08 / CSP Resolution, the value of the minimum download speed for download of the service is 6.4 Mbps. This value derives from measurements made in the second half of 2012 on lines (1) which are between 1000 and 1500 meters from the central station. It should be noted that this value refers to the exclusive use of the ADSL connection for Internet access without the simultaneous use of VoIP or IPTV services. In any case, the value of the minimum transmission speed in download that represents the target value on which Telecom Italia contractually contracts is set at 2.1 Mbps. For the lines located in the areas included in the Anti-digital divide project (see www.telecomitalia.it in the Info Consumers section - Anti-digital project divides the list of municipalities with a rated transmission speed of 640 Kbps download and 256 Kbps in upload ) Contract engagement is set at 300 Kbps in download and 100 kbps in upload. For details, see the contractual terms. [https://www.tim.it/offerte/fisso/internet-voce-e-timvision/adsl/internet-senza-limiti https://www.tim.it/offerte/fisso/internet-voce-e-timvision/a...] "Are you talking about guaranteed bandwidth, or rather connection speed?" The upload bandwidth I normally have is the guaranteed minimum. Whether it's because of the last mile or the network congestion, I do not know. Now, we are in the cloud era, suppose you try to upload an hd picture, or a long document somewhere (side note: this is an average use case, not something you should expect from a power user). For a file size of 10MiB [83886.08 Kb] (again, nothing exaggerated) at a transfer rate of 100kbps the transfer will take 838s: just slightly under a quarter of an hour !!! IMHO this is totally unreasonable. My position is that the company is what remains of a former state monopoly, which still holds a dominant position in the telecommunications market. Unfortunately for the users, this is why there has been no incentive to improve the network over time (for everyone, doing some localised research project is insufficient), and today the situation is not the best. Telecom Italia is not a company like the others: it's allowed to do many things that others cannot do, including harassing people at every hour of the day for selling their new snake oil with a crazy new discount (taking the money spent on the salaries of the people workin in the call centers and investing them in improving the network is the first thing to do). The 20% is what I'm experiencing in one of my connections, but you do not have to take my word for it, a quick web search is going to show you relevant results: http://forum.telefonino.net/showthread.php?t=402839 http://forum.telefonino.net/showthread.php?t=402839 https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/telecom-upload-basso.247557/ https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/telecom-upload-basso.247... http://www.evilripper.net/adsl-telecom-italia-1-megabyte-in-upload/ http://www.evilripper.net/adsl-telecom-italia-1-megabyte-in-... https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/banda-in-upload.69639/ https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/banda-in-upload.69639/ http://forum.telefonino.net/archive/index.php?t-402839.html http://forum.telefonino.net/archive/index.php?t-402839.html ... and many others ...

tgragnato 9y ago

"YMMV" Indeed! As far as I know the business traffic is prioritised. That doesn't mean it's the average for home connections (the majority of users/customers). > The transmission speed is up to 7 Mbps in download and up to 384 Kbps in upload. Pursuant to Article 7, paragraph 4 of AGCom 244/08 / CSP Resolution, the value of the minimum download speed for download of the service is 6.4 Mbps. This value derives from measurements made in the second half of 2012 on lines (1) which are between 1000 and 1500 meters from the central station. It should be noted that this value refers to the exclusive use of the ADSL connection for Internet access without the simultaneous use of VoIP or IPTV services. In any case, the value of the minimum transmission speed in download that represents the target value on which Telecom Italia contractually contracts is set at 2.1 Mbps. For the lines located in the areas included in the Anti-digital divide project (see www.telecomitalia.it in the Info Consumers section - Anti-digital project divides the list of municipalities with a rated transmission speed of 640 Kbps download and 256 Kbps in upload ) Contract engagement is set at 300 Kbps in download and 100 kbps in upload. For details, see the contractual terms. [https://www.tim.it/offerte/fisso/internet-voce-e-timvision/adsl/internet-senza-limiti https://www.tim.it/offerte/fisso/internet-voce-e-timvision/a...] "Are you talking about guaranteed bandwidth, or rather connection speed?" The upload bandwidth I normally have is the guaranteed minimum. Whether it's because of the last mile or the network congestion, I do not know. Now, we are in the cloud era, suppose you try to upload an hd picture, or a long document somewhere (side note: this is an average use case, not something you should expect from a power user). For a file size of 10MiB [83886.08 Kb] (again, nothing exaggerated) at a transfer rate of 100kbps the transfer will take 838s: just slightly under a quarter of an hour !!! IMHO this is totally unreasonable. My position is that the company is what remains of a former state monopoly, which still holds a dominant position in the telecommunications market. Unfortunately for the users, this is why there has been no incentive to improve the network over time (for everyone, doing some localised research project is insufficient), and today the situation is not the best. Telecom Italia is not a company like the others: it's allowed to do many things that others cannot do, including harassing people at every hour of the day for selling their new snake oil with a crazy new discount (taking the money spent on the salaries of the people workin in the call centers and investing them in improving the network is the first thing to do). The 20% is what I'm experiencing in one of my connections, but you do not have to take my word for it, a quick web search is going to show you relevant results: http://forum.telefonino.net/showthread.php?t=402839 http://forum.telefonino.net/showthread.php?t=402839 https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/telecom-upload-basso.247557/ https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/telecom-upload-basso.247... http://www.evilripper.net/adsl-telecom-italia-1-megabyte-in-upload/ http://www.evilripper.net/adsl-telecom-italia-1-megabyte-in-... https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/banda-in-upload.69639/ https://www.tomshw.it/forum/threads/banda-in-upload.69639/ http://forum.telefonino.net/archive/index.php?t-402839.html http://forum.telefonino.net/archive/index.php?t-402839.html ... and many others ...