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Inmoral as defined by who? You say "shipping illegal migrants", and I say "giving people a better shot at life". You're using loaded language. Not a good way t

Inmoral as defined by who? You say "shipping illegal migrants", and I say "giving people a better shot at life". You're using loaded language. Not a good way to have a engaging discussion.

99mistakes 9y ago
You're using loaded language, I'm speaking the truth. They are illegal, economic migrants. It's that simple. Saying that you're giving people a better shot at life is a ridiculous, loaded statement. These people will not be working in high-tech Europe, they will be receiving help from the state for many generations to come all the while transforming the continent to the point of civil war. Where is the dignity in sitting on your ass all day, having abandoned your own country that you should have worked to improve? We could spend all day linking each other studies, well if you actually had any to support your view point that this does any good at all for either party. But in case this doesn't happen, I'll leave you with this: In Tokyo, it is common to send children alone to school via the metro. Meanwhile in 'multicultural' (part 3rd world) London, the mayor says terrorist attacks are just part of living in a big city.
- barking 9y ago
  Bill Gates agrees with you. "He said this week during an interview with a German media that European countries should take measures to make it more difficult for migrants to leave Africa through the current transit routes." http://www.africanews.com/2017/07/07/europe-s-generosity-motivates-more-migrants-to-leave-africa-bill-gates// http://www.africanews.com/2017/07/07/europe-s-generosity-mot...
- swsieber 9y ago
  I'm in the US, so this won't be comparing apples to oranges, but... Many people think the same thing about illegal Mexican immigrants. But I've lived in Arizona, and I got to know quite a few. Most were hard working. I met a few willing to bum off the system. I also met quite a few legal citizens that bummed off the system. So I think your fear that the illegal immigrants will be receiving help from the state is unfounded.... unless of course they are denied working opportunities because of their origin, in which case, yes, I'd say there's some cultural compatibility issues (on the end of the local citizens). As for your second point... does Great Britian allow in more migrants than other countries? If not, and they experience more terrorist attacks, that would suggest that it's not the migrants causing it. I could be way off the mark here, and I would appreciate any scholarly links on the matter.
  - 99mistakes 9y ago
    I am saddened that you base your opinions on your personal experience. You are right that Mexicans are hard working. Their average IQ is unfortunately low, but they are hard workers. Every group is different. For example, have you heard of the Parsi? These are geniuses living in India that fled Persia a long time ago. They are just 60,000 persons but have many billionaires among them, many Harvard/MIT/etc professors, and so on. Each group is different, why that is I won't go into on here. All I can say is Europe is receiving the worst bunch they could imagine.
  - rhapsodic 9y ago
    > Many people think the same thing about illegal Mexican immigrants. But I've lived in Arizona, and I got to know quite a few. Most were hard working. I met a few willing to bum off the system. I also met quite a few legal citizens that bummed off the system. So I think your fear that the illegal immigrants will be receiving help from the state is unfounded.... Years ago I worked in a city where there were many illegal Mexican immigrants, and I worked alongside them in the factory where I worked, and my impression pretty much aligned with yours. But I still think that we should severely restrict the immigration of low-skilled, low-educated citizens of other countries. Roughly half of the population of the US has an IQ of 100 or below, and the number of jobs they are capable of doing is shrinking. I don't think it's fair that this segment of the market should be flooded with competition that will reduce wages and opportunities for our current citizens. My position is based on the premise that the aim of US immigration policy should be to benefit US citizens, rather than the citizens of other countries. I understand that many well-intentioned people disagree with me on that point, and I don't think they're horrible, heartless people because of it. I just happen to see things differently.
99mistakes 9y ago
Reply 2. I would have thought that even a socialist like yourself could have at least admitted that these NGOs are a problem as they are being funded to fix problems but are being run by people whose aim it is to receive funding for as long as possible. You could call this corruption, but I don't know if you've heard of it. It really shows the state of things, doesn't it? We've gotten to the point where the left side of the political spectrum has transformed themselves from being failed communists to being eternal minority protectors. You will never admit any problem that shows a minority in a light that's worse than the native population. And you will never admit that white people do not want to be replaced by non-white foreigners. You doom Europe to a decade or more of fascism, dictatorships, and massive deportations. As the problems get worse, the solutions become more extreme. This is what you create: https://www.rt.com/news/358766-french-writer-israel-gaza/ https://www.rt.com/news/358766-french-writer-israel-gaza/

Inmoral as defined by who? You say "shipping illegal migrants", and I say "giving people a better shot at life". You're using loaded language. Not a good way to have a engaging discussion.

99mistakes 9y ago

You're using loaded language, I'm speaking the truth. They are illegal, economic migrants. It's that simple. Saying that you're giving people a better shot at life is a ridiculous, loaded statement. These people will not be working in high-tech Europe, they will be receiving help from the state for many generations to come all the while transforming the continent to the point of civil war. Where is the dignity in sitting on your ass all day, having abandoned your own country that you should have worked to improve? We could spend all day linking each other studies, well if you actually had any to support your view point that this does any good at all for either party. But in case this doesn't happen, I'll leave you with this: In Tokyo, it is common to send children alone to school via the metro. Meanwhile in 'multicultural' (part 3rd world) London, the mayor says terrorist attacks are just part of living in a big city.

barking 9y ago
Bill Gates agrees with you. "He said this week during an interview with a German media that European countries should take measures to make it more difficult for migrants to leave Africa through the current transit routes." http://www.africanews.com/2017/07/07/europe-s-generosity-motivates-more-migrants-to-leave-africa-bill-gates// http://www.africanews.com/2017/07/07/europe-s-generosity-mot...
swsieber 9y ago
I'm in the US, so this won't be comparing apples to oranges, but... Many people think the same thing about illegal Mexican immigrants. But I've lived in Arizona, and I got to know quite a few. Most were hard working. I met a few willing to bum off the system. I also met quite a few legal citizens that bummed off the system. So I think your fear that the illegal immigrants will be receiving help from the state is unfounded.... unless of course they are denied working opportunities because of their origin, in which case, yes, I'd say there's some cultural compatibility issues (on the end of the local citizens). As for your second point... does Great Britian allow in more migrants than other countries? If not, and they experience more terrorist attacks, that would suggest that it's not the migrants causing it. I could be way off the mark here, and I would appreciate any scholarly links on the matter.
- 99mistakes 9y ago
  I am saddened that you base your opinions on your personal experience. You are right that Mexicans are hard working. Their average IQ is unfortunately low, but they are hard workers. Every group is different. For example, have you heard of the Parsi? These are geniuses living in India that fled Persia a long time ago. They are just 60,000 persons but have many billionaires among them, many Harvard/MIT/etc professors, and so on. Each group is different, why that is I won't go into on here. All I can say is Europe is receiving the worst bunch they could imagine.
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  > Many people think the same thing about illegal Mexican immigrants. But I've lived in Arizona, and I got to know quite a few. Most were hard working. I met a few willing to bum off the system. I also met quite a few legal citizens that bummed off the system. So I think your fear that the illegal immigrants will be receiving help from the state is unfounded.... Years ago I worked in a city where there were many illegal Mexican immigrants, and I worked alongside them in the factory where I worked, and my impression pretty much aligned with yours. But I still think that we should severely restrict the immigration of low-skilled, low-educated citizens of other countries. Roughly half of the population of the US has an IQ of 100 or below, and the number of jobs they are capable of doing is shrinking. I don't think it's fair that this segment of the market should be flooded with competition that will reduce wages and opportunities for our current citizens. My position is based on the premise that the aim of US immigration policy should be to benefit US citizens, rather than the citizens of other countries. I understand that many well-intentioned people disagree with me on that point, and I don't think they're horrible, heartless people because of it. I just happen to see things differently.

99mistakes 9y ago

Reply 2. I would have thought that even a socialist like yourself could have at least admitted that these NGOs are a problem as they are being funded to fix problems but are being run by people whose aim it is to receive funding for as long as possible. You could call this corruption, but I don't know if you've heard of it. It really shows the state of things, doesn't it? We've gotten to the point where the left side of the political spectrum has transformed themselves from being failed communists to being eternal minority protectors. You will never admit any problem that shows a minority in a light that's worse than the native population. And you will never admit that white people do not want to be replaced by non-white foreigners. You doom Europe to a decade or more of fascism, dictatorships, and massive deportations. As the problems get worse, the solutions become more extreme. This is what you create: https://www.rt.com/news/358766-french-writer-israel-gaza/ https://www.rt.com/news/358766-french-writer-israel-gaza/