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> Nobody serious justifies 'maths' based on it being plural That's the only justification. What other justification is there? > it is just a different contrac

> Nobody serious justifies 'maths' based on it being plural That's the only justification. What other justification is there? > it is just a different contraction of the word 'mathematics' than what you are used to. Yes. Because the british mistakenly assumed mathematics was a "regular plural". For what reason would you keep the s at the end? Do you shorten economics to econS or to econ? Do you takes ECONS 101? The explanation was given here. https://youtu.be/SbZCECvoaTA?t=50 https://youtu.be/SbZCECvoaTA?t=50 Why are you so resistant to FACTS and HISTORY? I don't get people who argue even after given evidence.

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consz 9y ago
>That's the only justification. What other justification is there? That those who hear it can understand what the speaker is talking about -- I would say that is the only justification necessary (indeed, for any word), and is more than justified for the term "maths".
- awkwarddaturtle 9y ago
  That is a justification to continue using it. Sure. But that isn't the justification for shortening mathematics to maths. All I'm saying is that it was shortened to maths due to a misunderstanding of what mathematics is. And all I'm saying is that when british people saying the "correct" way to shorten mathematics is to shorten it to "maths", I'm saying their JUSTIFICATION is wrong. Because mathematics is not a regular plural. Okay? I'm explaining it as simply as possible. Use maths if you want. If that is what is used in britain, fine. I'm just saying the JUSTIFICATION for why british people say it is "correct" is wrong. Okay?
sbmassey 9y ago
You seem amusingly obsessed over a trivial difference in the way two different varieties of English chose to shorten the word 'mathematics'. As far as I can tell, there are no official rules for shortening words in English, so I don't think that 'maths' is in any more need of a justification than 'math'. Or 'stats' vs 'stat' for statistics, come to that.
- awkwarddaturtle 9y ago
  > You seem amusingly obsessed over a trivial difference in the way two different varieties of English chose to shorten the word 'mathematics'. I'm not. I don't care. I know the world will eventually choose "math" because that's the way america says it. The only people who are obsessed are people justifying "maths". I don't care if you say "maths". Just don't justify it as being "logical". > As far as I can tell, there are no official rules for shortening words in English, so I don't think that 'maths' is in any more need of a justification than 'math'. There is. You add an "s" for REGULAR PLURALS. Like STATISTIC is a noun. Statistics is a regular plural. So statistics becomes STATS rather than stat. It's a simple rule. It's why economics is shortened to ECON rather than econs... Because economic is not a noun. Economics is not a regular plural. > Or 'stats' vs 'stat' for statistics, come to that. Statistic is a noun. Statistics is a regular plural. Regular plurals you shorten with s. So statistics shortening to stats makes sense. Mathematic isn't a noun. Mathematics isn't a regular noun. I already explained this to you. The fact that you think statistics supports your argument just goes to show that you really aren't getting it. Why you are so invested in pushing a lie even after people have corrected you, I'll never know.

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consz 9y ago

>That's the only justification. What other justification is there? That those who hear it can understand what the speaker is talking about -- I would say that is the only justification necessary (indeed, for any word), and is more than justified for the term "maths".

awkwarddaturtle 9y ago
That is a justification to continue using it. Sure. But that isn't the justification for shortening mathematics to maths. All I'm saying is that it was shortened to maths due to a misunderstanding of what mathematics is. And all I'm saying is that when british people saying the "correct" way to shorten mathematics is to shorten it to "maths", I'm saying their JUSTIFICATION is wrong. Because mathematics is not a regular plural. Okay? I'm explaining it as simply as possible. Use maths if you want. If that is what is used in britain, fine. I'm just saying the JUSTIFICATION for why british people say it is "correct" is wrong. Okay?

sbmassey 9y ago

You seem amusingly obsessed over a trivial difference in the way two different varieties of English chose to shorten the word 'mathematics'. As far as I can tell, there are no official rules for shortening words in English, so I don't think that 'maths' is in any more need of a justification than 'math'. Or 'stats' vs 'stat' for statistics, come to that.

awkwarddaturtle 9y ago
> You seem amusingly obsessed over a trivial difference in the way two different varieties of English chose to shorten the word 'mathematics'. I'm not. I don't care. I know the world will eventually choose "math" because that's the way america says it. The only people who are obsessed are people justifying "maths". I don't care if you say "maths". Just don't justify it as being "logical". > As far as I can tell, there are no official rules for shortening words in English, so I don't think that 'maths' is in any more need of a justification than 'math'. There is. You add an "s" for REGULAR PLURALS. Like STATISTIC is a noun. Statistics is a regular plural. So statistics becomes STATS rather than stat. It's a simple rule. It's why economics is shortened to ECON rather than econs... Because economic is not a noun. Economics is not a regular plural. > Or 'stats' vs 'stat' for statistics, come to that. Statistic is a noun. Statistics is a regular plural. Regular plurals you shorten with s. So statistics shortening to stats makes sense. Mathematic isn't a noun. Mathematics isn't a regular noun. I already explained this to you. The fact that you think statistics supports your argument just goes to show that you really aren't getting it. Why you are so invested in pushing a lie even after people have corrected you, I'll never know.