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How can tracks be downloaded when many of them are pay-to-access? or stream-only?

voltagex_ 9y ago
Generally, if you "stream" (send) me bits, they're mine to do what I want with (practically, maybe not legally). Although, if anyone could tell me how to do that with AES-SAMPLE HLS video, I'd be very happy.
- eatbitseveryday 9y ago
  Aren't most of the "bits" these days protected by DRM encryption, even in the hardware? I know video is, but audio? I'm always confused when people say they've backed up some website when there are these practical and legal barriers.
  - __s 9y ago
    If you can play the audio, it isn't encrypted
    - colejohnson66 9y ago
      Especially if you’re playing over the rear audio jack instead of over the HDMI port.
    - eatbitseveryday 9y ago
      > If you can play the audio This forcibly imposes a fixed recording rate, limited to the length of the track itself.
- mdaniel 9y ago
  Can you describe the ways you have attempted, and the bad outcome, to help focus the answer/search a little more? The 10 minutes I spent poking around to see what "AES HLS" was made it appear that a MITM proxy would straighten that problem right out, unless you are in an iTunes FairPlay-esque encrypted to your iPhone type deal, in which case I believe the math is against you
  - voltagex_ 9y ago
    One of the issues is that the stream I have as an example is geo-restricted to Australia. https://au.tv.yahoo.com/plus7/screenplay/-/watch/36206022/screenplay-thu-29-jun-season-1-episode-1/ https://au.tv.yahoo.com/plus7/screenplay/-/watch/36206022/sc... youtube-dl seems to find the stream URL okay, but then prints ffmpeg errors: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/11636 https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/11636 https://github.com/selsta/hlsdl https://github.com/selsta/hlsdl should be able to do it in theory, but it looks like WideVine DRM is involved. Someone has a Kodi plugin to make it work but Kodi doesn't support recording of any kind (?)

Generally, if you "stream" (send) me bits, they're mine to do what I want with (practically, maybe not legally). Although, if anyone could tell me how to do that with AES-SAMPLE HLS video, I'd be very happy.

eatbitseveryday 9y ago
Aren't most of the "bits" these days protected by DRM encryption, even in the hardware? I know video is, but audio? I'm always confused when people say they've backed up some website when there are these practical and legal barriers.
- __s 9y ago
  If you can play the audio, it isn't encrypted
  - colejohnson66 9y ago
    Especially if you’re playing over the rear audio jack instead of over the HDMI port.
  - eatbitseveryday 9y ago
    > If you can play the audio This forcibly imposes a fixed recording rate, limited to the length of the track itself.
mdaniel 9y ago
Can you describe the ways you have attempted, and the bad outcome, to help focus the answer/search a little more? The 10 minutes I spent poking around to see what "AES HLS" was made it appear that a MITM proxy would straighten that problem right out, unless you are in an iTunes FairPlay-esque encrypted to your iPhone type deal, in which case I believe the math is against you
- voltagex_ 9y ago
  One of the issues is that the stream I have as an example is geo-restricted to Australia. https://au.tv.yahoo.com/plus7/screenplay/-/watch/36206022/screenplay-thu-29-jun-season-1-episode-1/ https://au.tv.yahoo.com/plus7/screenplay/-/watch/36206022/sc... youtube-dl seems to find the stream URL okay, but then prints ffmpeg errors: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/11636 https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/11636 https://github.com/selsta/hlsdl https://github.com/selsta/hlsdl should be able to do it in theory, but it looks like WideVine DRM is involved. Someone has a Kodi plugin to make it work but Kodi doesn't support recording of any kind (?)