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Well, that will depend on how exactly the way the customers "will have to prove they are 18", as an example we know how no teenager under 18 would ever tick a
by jaclaz 9y ago
Well, that will depend on how exactly the way the customers "will have to prove they are 18", as an example we know how no teenager under 18 would ever tick a box near "Yes, I am 18 or older".
On the other hand needing to provide a photo or scanned image of your driving license or passport AND give access to the web camera to the site to verify your identity, while reasonably effective might somehow produce as a side effect a reduction of customers.
- matthewmacleod 9y agoIt's in the article - sites will be required to request credit card details.
- xxs 9y agoExcept they quote gambling and age verification there (UK) is not related to credit cards.
- matthewmacleod 9y agoI appreciate that, but various other reports do seem to indicate that credit card details will be required. We'll have to see, though.
- Shivetya 9y agoso how do they think this will prevent it? cannot children just borrow the numbers from their parents cards? as long as no charge is made they should be safe. now it would get very interesting if any card used for verification was in turn required to send a letter to the card holder about such verification. still the requirements seem more lenient than what some online game (think MMO) services require when they request proof of identify to secure ownership of an account
- xxs 9y agoAge/identity verification for UK gambling (online) industry is somewhat 'challenging'. "Users may be asked to provide credit card details, as gambling websites do." this is not at all how verification works.
- Reason077 9y agoIf age verification does involve providing credit card details, I imagine that the porn industry will be 100% behind this!
- mattmanser 9y agoIt will be trivial for any horny teenager to circumvent it with a proxy.
- Grustaf 9y agoThey would be much more likely to use torrents, most people don't even know what a proxy is.
- DiThi 9y agoIn the UK one has to use a proxy to access torrent sites, at least for many ISPs there, DNSs are all transparently proxied to block websites.
- ksangeelee 9y agoOr simply install the Tor browser - additionally (and ironically) giving them access to a wide variety of extreme material.
- raesene6 9y agoNo matter how they do verification, the scheme won't have the intended effect as there are massive numbers of non-commercial sites which make porn available, including pretty much any site that allows user generated content. And on the other side we have a load of personal information given to a load more sites on the Internet, with all the potential for problems if/when they get hacked (e.g. Ashley Madison)
- Nursie 9y ago>> On the other hand ... might somehow produce as a side effect a reduction of customers. It may, on UK sites, on "legitimate" sites. Not so much on the darkweb, or via proxies, or IRC or Usenet or ....
- viraptor 9y agoNo need to get that technical. Reddit has lots of very targeted subreddits. All behind main Reddit HTTPS and with all the content on Imgur / Reddit images. (Also HTTPS enabled) There's lots of other domains like that which provide quality content and no real way of enforcing age limits.
- Freak_NL 9y agoThis legislation might make finding porn at least non-trivial if broad community sites likes Reddit, Tumblr, and 4chan are found to be applicable. These would then just be blocked by British ISPs until they do implement some form of adult verification check. Some might, some will simply dismiss the legislation as not something they want to be bothered with. Of course, blocking such sites might also trigger an unwanted backlash within the UK, which may be precisely why they might not be targeted at all. One does wonder if the drafters of this legislation even considered this.
- cm2187 9y agoLike it successfully prevented teenagers from drinking alcohol in the US.
- notahacker 9y ago> On the other hand needing to ... give access to the web camera to the site to verify your identity I can imagine some nefarious porn baron making an awful lot of money out of selling (or being paid not to sell) webcam footage of people browsing their website...
- TeMPOraL 9y agoIndeed. Just show an official-looking popup saying: "In compilance with UK [some government branch] [some law name/number], this site employs continuous age and identity verification. Your webcam will be active for the duration of your visit to ensure that only people of 18 and above are viewing the content of this website." I'm sure there would be people who'd accept that and continue with a webcam on and recording...