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I worry this will just funnel kids onto the kinds of porn web-sites that are unlikely to follow government regulations anyway, as they might have more damaging

I worry this will just funnel kids onto the kinds of porn web-sites that are unlikely to follow government regulations anyway, as they might have more damaging content. Are there any cases where something like this has been rolled out elsewhere where the effects can be looked at?

friendly_chap 9y ago
Likely this will be implemented at the ISP level, I expect 99.99 of the sites would not care otherwise.
- laumars 9y ago
  You still cannot effectively block every adult site even at an ISP level. There will always be smaller sites on the fringe that get missed. It's basically the same problem as preventing online piracy.
  - realusername 9y ago
    I confirm, their mobile blocking in the UK does not work very well, sometimes it also even blocks non-porn websites randomly.
    - Rjevski 9y ago
      Off topic but if you're using Three I suggest you use the "3internet" APN - it has no effect on billing but you bypass any filters and get a direct connection with your own IP address (no NAT) and no filtering proxy in between.
      - realusername 9y ago
        Oh, that's good to know, I will use that now! Thank you!
  - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
    And honestly - I suspect this will have the bigger effect of encouraging actual porn piracy instead of porn streaming. Wonderful way to re-introduce the popularity of a porn collection.
  - kahnpro 9y ago
    They don't need to block 100% of all sites for it to be effective. It's the same with the lock on your home, the password on your phone, the lack of a fence or wall along the length of the border. It's "good enough".
    - laumars 9y ago
      I think you're underestimating the determination kids have for accessing content they are told they can't have. "good enough" here isn't good enough. I'm going to draw parallels with online piracy again, where countless DRM and legal (both through legislation and litigation) efforts are made to curb piracy yet rarely make a dent on the numbers of people who access copyrighted content illegally via one means or another.
onion2k 9y ago
Alternatively they'll (continue to) go to Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, etc - the sort of sites that this law will have no impact on.
- vortico 9y ago
  Now that you mention it, pretty much every website with user content has porn on it. So this regulation will either ban those as well, or cause people watching "professional Hollywood porn" to instead watch user-generated porn, which doesn't solve the problem the regulation is trying to solve at all. As a small website owner (not a porn website owner though), I really don't care if a country blocks my website because of silly censorship laws. Sure, it hurts finances a bit, but if a government truly represents the people (yeah right), then the people don't want to see my website anyway, right?! I wonder if larger websites like Reddit, forum boards, and file hosting sites will follow this same attitude.

friendly_chap 9y ago

Likely this will be implemented at the ISP level, I expect 99.99 of the sites would not care otherwise.

laumars 9y ago
You still cannot effectively block every adult site even at an ISP level. There will always be smaller sites on the fringe that get missed. It's basically the same problem as preventing online piracy.
- realusername 9y ago
  I confirm, their mobile blocking in the UK does not work very well, sometimes it also even blocks non-porn websites randomly.
  - Rjevski 9y ago
    Off topic but if you're using Three I suggest you use the "3internet" APN - it has no effect on billing but you bypass any filters and get a direct connection with your own IP address (no NAT) and no filtering proxy in between.
    - realusername 9y ago
      Oh, that's good to know, I will use that now! Thank you!
- Broken_Hippo 9y ago
  And honestly - I suspect this will have the bigger effect of encouraging actual porn piracy instead of porn streaming. Wonderful way to re-introduce the popularity of a porn collection.
- kahnpro 9y ago
  They don't need to block 100% of all sites for it to be effective. It's the same with the lock on your home, the password on your phone, the lack of a fence or wall along the length of the border. It's "good enough".
  - laumars 9y ago
    I think you're underestimating the determination kids have for accessing content they are told they can't have. "good enough" here isn't good enough. I'm going to draw parallels with online piracy again, where countless DRM and legal (both through legislation and litigation) efforts are made to curb piracy yet rarely make a dent on the numbers of people who access copyrighted content illegally via one means or another.

onion2k 9y ago

Alternatively they'll (continue to) go to Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, etc - the sort of sites that this law will have no impact on.

vortico 9y ago
Now that you mention it, pretty much every website with user content has porn on it. So this regulation will either ban those as well, or cause people watching "professional Hollywood porn" to instead watch user-generated porn, which doesn't solve the problem the regulation is trying to solve at all. As a small website owner (not a porn website owner though), I really don't care if a country blocks my website because of silly censorship laws. Sure, it hurts finances a bit, but if a government truly represents the people (yeah right), then the people don't want to see my website anyway, right?! I wonder if larger websites like Reddit, forum boards, and file hosting sites will follow this same attitude.