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Farewell old friend. For those looking for an alternative: you should try MPV. It's a video player for the geeks/hackers https://mpv.io/manual/stable/ https://m
by NuDinNou 9y ago
Farewell old friend. For those looking for an alternative: you should try MPV. It's a video player for the geeks/hackers https://mpv.io/manual/stable/ https://mpv.io/manual/stable/
- rakshithbekal 9y agoDoes not have NGU
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- striking 9y agoI second MPV. All you need for watching video, with none of the bloat of VLC. The default keybinds are absolutely nonsensical, though.
- rossy 9y agoAgreed, though unfortunately, every attempt to change them has resulted in bikeshedding and no real progress. See: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/973 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/973 Now, the general consensus is that they should be changed gradually, rather than all at once. Some obviously bad keybindings have been removed this way (eg. Esc->quit.) If you create an issue for your most hated keybind, it can probably be changed.
- NamTaf 9y agoI know I should probably raise this on the Github issue, and I'm posting this without having even looked at MPV yet to see if this is how it's already done or if there's any issues with this approach, but why not take the approach of 'profiles'? Ship with (at least) 2 profiles baked in - 'MPV legacy' and 'MPC-style'. Add more as desired. That way those who simply want to jump to a familiar system can choose MPC-style, those who want to stick with what they're familiar with from using MPV can, and the rest can customise as desired. Any gradual changes just mean gradual changes to a keybind file. Anyone who doesn't like them can simply use their own keybind file from previous versions, or from their own modification.
- rossy 9y agoYeah, that seems reasonable. We have one of these to restore MPlayer bindings: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/etc/mplayer-input.conf https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/etc/mplayer-in... Though rather than being baked in, these bindings have to be manually copied over the user's input.conf. mpv's config profiles don't extend to input.conf at the moment.
- problems 9y agoYeah, I hate that they changed perfectly food mplayer binds to make less sense. Fortunately there's a file included that will restore the original behaviors.
- armada651 9y agoAs a former MPC-HC developer, I consider MPV the spiritual successor.
- mariuolo 9y agoThere's also mpc-qt (https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt) that tries to mimic MPC-HC features. It uses libmpv though.
- adad95 9y agoThanks for your work.
- brianpgordon 9y agoWhat about MPV do you see as in the spirit of MPC-HC? I'm a user of MPC-HC because of its DirectShow support and nice native UI. MPV has neither of these.
- djsumdog 9y agoI switched from mplayer/mplayer2 to mpv a few years back and it's pretty amazing. It's my primary video player.
- puzzlingcaptcha 9y agoYou can't use madVR with mpv.io which is a deal breaker for many (better scaling algorithms, better dithering, display calibration with 3DLUT, HDR conversion/processing and so on).
- rossy 9y agoThat's misleading. You can't use madVR with mpv, but that doesn't mean you can't have high quality scaling and dithering. madVR has NGU, which mpv doesn't have, and it has error-diffusion dithering, which mpv doesn't have, so if you need those, the lack of madVR support could be a deal breaker, but the difference in quality between those algorithms and the ones in mpv is fairly subjective. I feel like all the trendy super-resolution algorithms introduce too many ringing, aliasing and strange watercolour-like artefacts, so I much prefer mpv's EWA Lanczos filter, though if you want, there are a number of super-res algorithms available as mpv user-shaders, including SSimSuperRes and NNEDI3. See: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts#pixel-shaders https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts#pixel-sh... mpv supports display calibration and HDR conversion as well. You can load a 3DLUT for display calibration if you want, but for mpv, you would more likely load an ICC profile and have it generate the correct LUT automatically. You can even just let it pick up the ICC profile configured in the operating system. As for HDR, there are a number of built-in tone mapping algorithms: https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-hdr-tone-mapping https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-hdr-tone-mapping
- puzzlingcaptcha 9y agoI'll grant you that you can take advantage of calibration in mpv if you can generate a ICC profile containing 3dlut data, I didn't know that. I disagree on a couple of points though. Jinc may in fact produce noticeable ringing (while NGU doesn't), and neither produce aliasing so asserting the opposite seems strange. The difference in sharpness is also quite obvious. On top of that mpv's anti-ringing filter is very basic in comparison. HDR processing also seems quite limited and requires a lot of hand-tuning compared to madVR. If it works for you, great, but it would be disingenuous to say that both programs are at a feature parity.
- mattfrommars 9y agoThe only and biggest reason why I will stick with MPC is it's compatibility with ac3filter.
- Kiro 9y agoDoes it have a "Download subtitles" function, as in MPC-HC?
- dombili 9y agompv is barebones so it doesn't, but you can integrate Subliminal (https://github.com/Diaoul/subliminal https://github.com/Diaoul/subliminal) to it.
- smnc 9y agoLike dombili said, you can integrate Subliminal. One of the nice things about mpv is that it's lua-scriptable. Here's a rough version of my script: https://github.com/smnx/mpv-autosub https://github.com/smnx/mpv-autosub (forked from https://gist.github.com/selsta/ce3fb37e775dbd15c698 https://gist.github.com/selsta/ce3fb37e775dbd15c698).
- KonnieLaws 9y agoMPV is great but I wish the ecosystem around it was a little better (at least on Windows). There are a bunch of different GUI players but nothing definitive like a MPC-HC, VLC or PotPlayer.