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MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell
- drngdds 9y agoRIP. Is VLC the best alternative at the moment?
- seriouspat 9y agompv I'd say. RIP MPC-HC though.
- tuxxy 9y agoI really like mpv. https://mpv.io/ https://mpv.io/
- agumonkey 9y agoMe too. VLC had and has many many qualities, but mpv is so slick and versatile while VLC is a bit of a kitchen sink. I even use mpv on windows...
- erikbye 9y agoTry SMPlayer.
- bberrry 9y agoGoing to second SMPlayer. My daily driver over VLC easily.
- ThisIs_MyName 9y agoPlease don't: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14785597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14785597
- erikbye 9y agoI haven't had a single problem with it. And at least recommend another front end then, because straight MPV is a horrible user experience.
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- mkishi 9y agoI really like PotPlayer. mpv is great but requires a bit of tinkering, whereas PP comes with some ready to go defaults and as much flexibility as MPC-HC.
- moogly 9y agoSeconding PotPlayer.
- LeoNatan25 9y agoOn Windows, I have not found a better alternative than PotPlayer.
- lostmsu 9y agoIn my practice VLC had troubles with many HEVC files.
- r3demon 9y agosad, but things change, eventually
- jaimehrubiks 9y agoLong live the best player ever mpc!
- rakshithbekal 9y agoI really want to use mpdn because it uses WMF but I haven't gotten results with it like I have using MPC-HC and madvr. Anybody know any other program that's as advance as mpc, compatible with madvr and uses Windows media foundation over directshow?
- GunlogAlm 9y agoHopefully some people step forward, I'd hate to see MPC-HC come to an end. :(
- AsyncAwait 9y agoAs a potential replacement, there's https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt which uses mpv backend, but has the MPC look and feel.
- revelation 9y agoIt's a media player. Frankly, it's pretty frickin "feature complete" as it is right now. Maybe you want someone to update the ffmpeg it links to. Occasionally. But that's already well into "super power user" territory.
- ksec 9y agoI have been using MPC-BE for many many years and it is being actively developed with developers feedback and response on Doom9. https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/
- dtech 9y agoWhy has this version been forked off?
- olegkikin 9y agoFor the looks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Player_Classic#Black_Edition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Player_Classic#Black_Edi...
- kakarot 9y agoNot just the looks. It says right there in the source you provided that MPC-BE "not only looks better than MPC, but also performs faster"
- olegkikin 9y agoMPC-HC is already so fast, I doubt that claim is even true. I just double-clocked on a video file after a cold boot, the UI shows up almost instantly, and the playback starts after around a second.
- ksec 9y agoTo all those asking why BE? It really has NOTHING to do with speed. To simply put, BE was well maintained and continuous bug fixing. From my perspective HC has seen the writing on the wall ever since BE forked. Not only does it look better, it plays files better then HC by default. Not sure HC has improved since then, back in the day BE would handle AVI, rmvb, WMV, much better without the need of fiddling around with settings and filters. MPC-BE is the only thing I really miss on Mac.
- tibiapejagala 9y agoIf you are reading this, thank you for your hard work all these years
- Fifer82 9y agoI want to second this. Been using it for years and appreciate all the work you guys have done.
- xvilo 9y agoHow can this come to an end :( - I am not a C/C++ dev. But I would like to support this project money wise if it would help?
- joaomacp 9y agoI used MPC-HC for many years. It was great! For some reason I can't remember, I switched to PotPlayer some 2 years ago. RIP, and if some developer is watching: Thank you, I watched many hours of movies and series using your software.
- Strom 9y agoAn excellent player with a ton of great features. However I'm not sure if it ever caught up to VLC in terms of performance. Specifically it was around 10x slower at seeking in H.264 video compared to VLC. When used on low performance machine (Pentium 4 @ 3 GHz + 7200 rpm HDD), this resulted in a sub-second seek time in VLC compared to over 5 seconds in MPC-HC when viewing 10Mbit bitrate video. Especially annoying when I wanted to rewatch a single moment over and over again.
- rakshithbekal 9y agoI doubt it. Mpc according to many on doom9 and other video player forums in combination with madvr filters provided objectively better quality frames. They post side by side comparison pictures in high resolution and mpc comes out as a better choice if you care about picture quality. Also about performance I don't think mpc is as bloated as vlc is and recall many having complaints of vlc using a lot of ram and cpu whereas mpc seems pretty lightweight. I can't stress enough how much vlc is losing out on not having madvr equivalent add on type to enhance picture quality though, the hardware utilization to push out the perfect pixel is nuts, not to mention built in smooth motion
- snvzz 9y agoMaybe it's time for mpc-qt: https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt It reimplements mpc-hc UX using qt for the UI and libmpv for the heavy lifting. The issue with this one is that it doesn't have public builds yet, but it has been in active development for years.
- jzelinskie 9y agoCan you use external renderers like madVR in mpc-qt?
- NuDinNou 9y agoFarewell old friend. For those looking for an alternative: you should try MPV. It's a video player for the geeks/hackers https://mpv.io/manual/stable/ https://mpv.io/manual/stable/
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- sotojuan 9y agoDamn. I remember all the debates on /a/ (4chan anime board) on what are the best options and presets... for watching anime. Looking back it was kind of silly but we were able to do that because the player was so well built. On Linux/macOS I use mpv - I recommend it!
- rakshithbekal 9y agoI wouldn't say much has changed haha https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61406534 https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61406534 https://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/85034716 https://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/85034716
- kakarot 9y agoAh, KCP... memories :')
- Veratyr 9y agoI really liked the interpolation stuff you could get in MPC-HC. Panning and such in anime was so much nicer. Edit: Turns out this isn't unique to MPC-HC: https://www.svp-team.com/ https://www.svp-team.com/
- NTripleOne 9y agoIn case anyone's seeing this using SVP3 and had no idea that 4 had released, 4 is well worth paying for, it is far less hardware intensive (SVP3 would choke getting high bitrate 1080p videos to 60fps, SVP4 handles the same files like a dream - anecdotal but better than nothing), the interface of the main application has been... improved (kinda subjective, but it's definitely more idiot proof) and it even supports VLC now if you swing that way.
- m45t3r 9y agoWell, this is because almost everyone nowadays concur that mpv is the way to go.
- satysin 9y agoMPC-HC is a superb media player but it is not surprising to see this happen. Interest in maintaining open source Windows applications written in C/Win32/C++/MFC is going to keep dropping as there are not as many people with the skills or motivation to do it. Especially for something as complex as a media player. Even on the Linux side I have seen a drop in the number of full blown media players being developed, they are mostly front ends to things like mpv and mplayer.
- pmoriarty 9y agoMaking front-ends to existing back-ends makes a lot of sense to me. I don't really see the advantage of writing a monolithic media player from scratch as opposed to leveraging existing back-ends.
- satysin 9y agoI knew I should have clarified that I don't think it is a bad thing they are "just" front ends to mpv :) I agree with you that there isn't much (if any) advantage to doing it all again with a new media player core. I would rather all the expertise is put into mpv to be honest and then let others build front ends that do all the extra bits.
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- rossy 9y agoIt's definitely bittersweet. I have a soft spot for raw Win32 programming. On Windows, I'd rather see a program written in Win32 than in something like WPF or XAML, so it's sad that there isn't much interest in developing Win32 programs these days. This news about MPC-HC came as a shock, because I thought it was popular enough to stay around. Still, I'd rather see a cross-platform program than one that only works on Windows, and unfortunately, MPC-HC falls into the latter category.
- sergiotapia 9y agoThose looking for a great alternative try using MPV. https://mpv.io/ https://mpv.io/ $ brew install mpv $ mpv ~/Media/my-movie.mp4 And you're off!
- ldjb 9y agoIsn't MPC-HC for Windows, and Brew for macOS? MPV is indeed a good alternative, though.
- Zyst 9y agoEDIT: I just realized you said "Isn't MPC-HC for Windows, and Brew for macOS?" which threw me off. I am currently on Windows and use MPV, I don't see why it should be exclusive in any way. The dotfiles are compatible, and same goes for lua scripts. So there's no trade off at all that I've found. And it's nice to be able to just clone my dotfiles and have it work in OS X, and same for Windows.
- ldjb 9y agoI agree. MPV is very customisable, and it's great to have a video player that works just how you want it, regardless of the system you're using. EDIT: Yeah, I was just pointing out the fact that, if you're using MPC-HC, then you're probably using Windows. In which case, whilst MPV is a good alternative, you wouldn't be installing it with (Home)brew, which is a package manager for macOS.
- greyskull 9y agoMPC-HC was always my go-to. Starts up instantly and the performance was always superb, much better than VLC in seeking. I don't know what it is, but more often than not, VLC pauses for a moment when seeking to a random part of the file, while MPC-HC has always been instant. I suppose I'll try out MPV.
- ApolloFortyNine 9y agoVLC in a nutshell: Rebuilding fonts... Fortunately, I believe MPC-HC will still likely be updated if necessary, or forked and updated if need be. I know I haven't updated mine in years and haven't had any problems.
- rossy 9y ago> VLC in a nutshell: Rebuilding fonts... I wonder if this is still a problem (I haven't used VLC in a while.) That message box is shown when fontconfig rebuilds its font cache, but libass has been able to run without fontconfig since 0.13.0 (October 2015.) I guess it depends on whether the current release version of VLC still needs it.
- dEnigma 9y agoIt happened to me on the current Windows version just a few days ago. But it doesn't seem to happen as often as in the past.
- belorn 9y agoWith some malformed files I have notice that VLC has a tendency to handle it when mplayer did not, so I always assumed that the delay in VLC is to more complex seeking that sacrifice performance for robustness. I haven't used MPV enough to see if this case is still true.
- pussypusspuss 9y agoA more verbose title would've been useful. I shouldn't have to click through to the linked site to find out what the acronym MPC-HC means.
- Nexxxeh 9y agoI don't think it really matters what the acronym means. It's a project name, like VLC (which is VideoLAN Client, to save you the trip ;) ) and its known BY the acronym.
- GuB-42 9y agoIs it dead or done? MPC-HC is just a DirectShow frontend, or at least, that's how I used it. Filters do most of the work. And no one seems to care about DirectShow anymore but that's mostly because everything works fine. It will die eventually, because Microsoft is trying hard to kill DirectShow (to replace it with something inferior...) and the opensource guys mostly go to mplayer, but for now, updates are not really necessary.
- unscaled 9y agoCalling MPC-HC just a DirectShow frontend is almost as inaccurate as saying mplayer is just a UNIX frontend. Just as mplayer is using POSIX APIs, MPC-HC is using the DirectShow API to run its filter graphs, but it actually provides a lot of internal decoders and filters (mostly based on ffmpeg/libavcodec), and if memory serves me right it even has its own renderer, and pretty much customizes its graph building, so you don't get a default DirectShow graph. To be honest, the DirectShow code provided by Microsoft usually ends up providing very little besides the Renderer (unless you're using an external renderer like madVR or Haali) and the glue code.
- Const-me 9y ago> to replace it with something inferior Media Foundation ain’t that bad. I coded some moderately advanced stuff with it, custom stream sources, custom transforms — it was fun, and it run well. I can see how it was inferior back in 2007. The first version of MF was shipped with Vista, and Vista… Let’s just say many people were disappointed with it. Nowadays however, when you only need to support Windows 7+, MF is fine.
- NamTaf 9y agoWell, nuts. I really liked MPC-HC as part of the CCCP. I'll check out some of the alternatives offered in this thread. Hopefully one follows the slim design and flexibility of MPC.
- vasili111 9y agoUsed MPC for a long time. After switched to Daum Pot Player.
- castell 9y agoVery unfortunate, MPC-HC was so simple to use, has a slick UI inspired by MS Media Player and to quickly review/seek videos it was the very best. (much faster than VLC for that task)
- jhasse 9y agoIt still is ;)
- krautsourced 9y agoI've used MPC for quite a while in the past, but have since moved to https://potplayer.daum.net/ https://potplayer.daum.net/ It's super feature rich, with (in my opinion) a much nice interface than e.g. VLC.
- TheKIngofBelAir 9y agoIf you don't mind sending telemetry data to their HQ in Korea then sure it's a nice media player. Article 5 (Collection and Use of Data and Other Information) (1) Daum may collect and use data from the computer of Users as a part of its product support services that are provided to Users in connection with the Software. Data that may be collected solely include the type of computer and type of operating system used on the computer, memory capacity, type of graphic card, Directx version, media player version, type of webcam and TV reception card. (2) Daum will use the above collected data only for the purpose of improving the Software or providing service or technology that is suitable to the user environment of the User and will not use such data for any other purposes.
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- kozak 9y agoI like how MPC-HC uses proper hardware codecs for h.264 and doesn't try to do it programmatically on its own like some other players do.
- fithisux 9y agoThe fate of C++ projects.
- TheKIngofBelAir 9y ago> K-Lite contains a custom build of MPC-HC that contains additional fixes and improvements compared to the officials builds. This will continue in the future. The internal codecs that MPC-HC uses are also still actively maintained. http://codecs.forumotion.net/t2644-mpc-hc-is-dead#14216 http://codecs.forumotion.net/t2644-mpc-hc-is-dead#14216