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Well, then it might be terrifying for hotels then. I'm not sure what the overall impact of Airbnb will be on the more low-end jobs. Sure you won't need bellboy

by sk0g 9y ago

Well, then it might be terrifying for hotels then. I'm not sure what the overall impact of Airbnb will be on the more low-end jobs. Sure you won't need bellboys etc, but cleaners will still be handy. I remember reading about a guy who had a very smooth Airbnb operation. He had dedicated fixers (electricians, furniture restorers, etc), and cleaners. So all he really had to do was approve random people who wanted this house for a while, and he was effectively making 2x what he would from rent, though this might have been riskier than just renting it out.

Angostura 9y ago
Its pretty clear that Airbnb is having some kind of effect on rental and house price in popular cities http://uk.businessinsider.com/statistics-data-airbnb-rent-prices-2016-10 http://uk.businessinsider.com/statistics-data-airbnb-rent-pr...
jaclaz 9y ago
There was already a similar discussion some time ago, I'll see if I can find it. EDIT: Here it is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679501 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679501 The rules for max 60 days in Amsterdam (pre-existing but that seemingly noone respected) are now seemingly effective at AirBnB level, at least in theory: https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Hosting/Some-news-on-how-Airbnb-will-now-have-to-enforce-existing/m-p/272415/highlight/true#M64239 https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Hosting/Some-news-on-how... and that may contribute to change (either increase or decrease) the numbers of "dots" (or maybe not). The need for cleaning and maintenance is more or less directly connected to number of guests/nights rented, if guests go to AirBnB's they don't go to the hotels, and the SAME cleaners and maintenance people that used to work fulltime for the hotel will start working part time with the hotels and part time with airBnB's. As long as the availability of AirBnB's actually increases the number of tourists/guests in a given area/city, that is "added wealth" otherwise it is "shifted wealth". Conversely - since usually AirBnB's tend to be cheaper than hotels and other similar forms of accomodation, it is "shifted wealth with a reduced amount" (the lower price which is "lost" in favour of the customer + the AirBnB commissions that go somewhere else). As a side effect the same apartment that was rented for a "decent" price to a local is now used in AirBnB, so the locals must pay much higher prices for long term length.

by sk0g 9y ago

Angostura 9y ago

Its pretty clear that Airbnb is having some kind of effect on rental and house price in popular cities http://uk.businessinsider.com/statistics-data-airbnb-rent-prices-2016-10 http://uk.businessinsider.com/statistics-data-airbnb-rent-pr...

jaclaz 9y ago

There was already a similar discussion some time ago, I'll see if I can find it. EDIT: Here it is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679501 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13679501 The rules for max 60 days in Amsterdam (pre-existing but that seemingly noone respected) are now seemingly effective at AirBnB level, at least in theory: https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Hosting/Some-news-on-how-Airbnb-will-now-have-to-enforce-existing/m-p/272415/highlight/true#M64239 https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Hosting/Some-news-on-how... and that may contribute to change (either increase or decrease) the numbers of "dots" (or maybe not). The need for cleaning and maintenance is more or less directly connected to number of guests/nights rented, if guests go to AirBnB's they don't go to the hotels, and the SAME cleaners and maintenance people that used to work fulltime for the hotel will start working part time with the hotels and part time with airBnB's. As long as the availability of AirBnB's actually increases the number of tourists/guests in a given area/city, that is "added wealth" otherwise it is "shifted wealth". Conversely - since usually AirBnB's tend to be cheaper than hotels and other similar forms of accomodation, it is "shifted wealth with a reduced amount" (the lower price which is "lost" in favour of the customer + the AirBnB commissions that go somewhere else). As a side effect the same apartment that was rented for a "decent" price to a local is now used in AirBnB, so the locals must pay much higher prices for long term length.