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Google Encrypted Search Moved to New Hostname to Address Concerns from Schools
- ars 16y agoIf I understand this correctly, https://www.google.com https://www.google.com should redirect to https://encrypted.google.com https://encrypted.google.com - except it doesn't. So I don't really understand what they did here.
- qjz 16y agoApparently, the login for Google Docs is within https://www.google.com/ https://www.google.com/, so they can't simply redirect the entire domain.
- ars 16y agoI figured they would just redirect the homepage and the search pages. (The search pages actually are redirected.)
- bretthoerner 16y agoIt redirected me to http://google.com/ http://google.com/, so I'd have to go to encrypted.google to do an SSL search. Did it return a 200 to you for https://google.com/ https://google.com/?
- mattmillr 16y agoIt doesn't redirect on the search page, but the results pages are located at https://encrypted.google.com https://encrypted.google.com.
- ars 16y agoAh! Thanks. But the search suggestions use https://clients1.google.com/ https://clients1.google.com/ and google should let schools know that block that as well. (Or maybe schools block all https except known good ones?)
- chengas123 16y agoIt sounds to me from the blog post that the change hasn't been made yet. We’re working hard to address this issue as quickly as possible and in a few weeks we will move encrypted search to a new hostname – so schools can limit access to SSL search without disrupting other Google services, like Google Apps for Education.
- coin 16y agoSo Google made this change to accommodate the schools' inability to filter based on host and https mode. And some of the schools' solution was to block https all together. Basically the schools' filtering is lame, so Google (in the interest of doing things right) solves this by tweaking their side.
- qjz 16y agoUnfortunately, Google didn't have much of a choice. However incompetent or misguided the schools' reaction to blocking encrypted search, it immediately broke Google Docs (and possibly other resources) for many of them. Google probably can't afford to give up this foothold, or to appear unreliable. The schools aren't upset at the existence of encrypted search, they just want a dead easy way to block it on their networks.
- stanleydrew 16y agoSeems like they could have fixed Google Docs then. I thought Docs was at https://docs.google.com/ https://docs.google.com/ anyway?
- qjz 16y agoIt is, but if you're not logged in, that link goes directly to an https://www.google.com https://www.google.com login page.
- ars 16y agoSchools block ALL encrypted traffic. Not to do so makes the firewall almost totally pointless. Presumably schools whitelisted specific sites to allow https, and google was one of them, until it became a problem.
- Estragon 16y agoNot ssh. *Dr Evil pinky smile*
- stanleydrew 16y ago
- kleiba 16y agoI don't understand - why do some schools block encrypted search?
- yummyfajitas 16y agoSchools wish to prevent students from accessing certain information. Encrypted search could allow such students to escape detection/punishment if they access that information anyway.
- r3570r3 16y agobecause students try and access blocked content using https, and it is not just for Google. Most blocked websites can be accessed thorough https if supported.
- comster 16y agoWow, this seems really stupid! You're telling me that students shouldn't have encrypted search available? School FAIL.
- r3570r3 16y agoThis is the exact reason I hate blacklisting and sense technologies they use in schools and companies. Why not use a proper Firewall else that messing up with DNS entries!