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I realize that, historically, immigration has involved race. But I don't see any intrinsic reason that should be so.

by nardi 9y ago

mistermann 9y ago
It doesn't have to, but it does. It's actually a funny "conversation".....race/culture is irrelevant/nonexistent, unless you suggest bringing in middle class immigrants from other Western countries, and then for some reason, it suddenly is important, very important that it is drawn from lower class nations, usually "coincidentally", predominantly visible minority countries....under the guise of "diversity" (even though we were just told that all cultures are the same). This has always been obvious, but I've never really understood "why" people acted like this without resorting to crazy conspiracy theories. This article that someone linked has a very plausible theory: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/01/the_upper_middle_class_is_ruining_all_that_is_great_about_america.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/201... "Or take immigration policy: Dean Baker of the liberal Center for Economic and Policy Research has called for increasing the number of doctors, dentists, and other professionals allowed into the U.S. while limiting the number of less-skilled people, like would-be retail clerks, custodians, and housekeepers. The reason is that high-skilled immigrants squeeze the wages of upper-middle-class professionals, who can afford to take a hit while lowering the cost of various services for poorer people by giving them the option of going to cheaper doctors and dentists. By contrast, bringing in retail clerks, custodians, and housekeepers makes life cheaper for the upper-middle-class professionals while squeezing the wages of working people, particularly immigrants who already live in the U.S. Want to guess how popular the idea of increasing the wages of nannies is with the upper-middle-class people who employ them? I’d love to know, but I’m sorry to report that upper-middle-class pollsters have yet to ask the question." It is a really good article, I encourage everyone to read it.

I realize that, historically, immigration has involved race. But I don't see any intrinsic reason that should be so.

by nardi 9y ago

I realize that, historically, immigration has involved race. But I don't see any intrinsic reason that should be so.

It doesn't have to, but it does. It's actually a funny "conversation".....race/culture is irrelevant/nonexistent, unless you suggest bringing in middle class immigrants from other Western countries, and then for some reason, it suddenly is important, very important that it is drawn from lower class nations, usually "coincidentally", predominantly visible minority countries....under the guise of "diversity" (even though we were just told that all cultures are the same). This has always been obvious, but I've never really understood "why" people acted like this without resorting to crazy conspiracy theories. This article that someone linked has a very plausible theory: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/01/the_upper_middle_class_is_ruining_all_that_is_great_about_america.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/201... "Or take immigration policy: Dean Baker of the liberal Center for Economic and Policy Research has called for increasing the number of doctors, dentists, and other professionals allowed into the U.S. while limiting the number of less-skilled people, like would-be retail clerks, custodians, and housekeepers. The reason is that high-skilled immigrants squeeze the wages of upper-middle-class professionals, who can afford to take a hit while lowering the cost of various services for poorer people by giving them the option of going to cheaper doctors and dentists. By contrast, bringing in retail clerks, custodians, and housekeepers makes life cheaper for the upper-middle-class professionals while squeezing the wages of working people, particularly immigrants who already live in the U.S. Want to guess how popular the idea of increasing the wages of nannies is with the upper-middle-class people who employ them? I’d love to know, but I’m sorry to report that upper-middle-class pollsters have yet to ask the question." It is a really good article, I encourage everyone to read it.