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…Or move to California — Job Hopping, A California Right and Non Compete Agreements: http://www.rhdtlaw.com/job-hopping-california-right/ http://www.rhdtlaw.co

…Or move to California — Job Hopping, A California Right and Non Compete Agreements: http://www.rhdtlaw.com/job-hopping-california-right/ http://www.rhdtlaw.com/job-hopping-california-right/

throwaway91111 9y ago
Yea, that's not enough. If it isn't enforcable in your state, demand they rip it out of your contract. This isn't going to go away otherwise.
austincheney 9y ago
Or move to Texas where laws make non-compete agreements are really hard to enforce, as in the employer has to prove harm not associated with loss of labor. Cost of living is about 3-10x cheaper in Texas. https://www.texasnoncompetelaw.com/articles/noncompete-agreements/ https://www.texasnoncompetelaw.com/articles/noncompete-agree...
- CalChris 9y ago
  > Cost of living is about 3-10x cheaper in Texas Idaho is cheaper than Texas. And no, Texas is not 3-10x cheaper than even California. In addition, you get paid less in TX than in CA.
  - chrnic27 9y ago
    Then why are there more Californians moving to Texas than vice versa? You really need to step out of your tech bubble. Remember how Donald Trump won the US election? If you were in the Bay area, I bet you would've never fathomed that since it's a bubble. Source: live in Mountain View
  - austincheney 9y ago
    http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fort-worth-tx/los-gatos-ca/150000 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fort-worth-tx/los-g... TX doesn't have state income tax, but CA does. TX has close to the cheapest fuel prices in the country while the bay area has the most expensive fuel prices in the country. Food costs less in TX and there is no sales tax on retail food purchases in TX. Yes, you get paid less in TX. For an average software developer you tend to get paid about 40-60% less. Since the cost of living is probably 3x more in CA getting paid a little less in TX still puts you at a huge financial advantage. I am not guessing at this. I am looking at the numbers and performing very simple arithmetic.
    - CalChris 9y ago
      Meals are taxed in TX as they are in CA. Groceries aren't taxed in TX as they aren't in CA. Gas is more in CA (2.89) than in TX (2.03). Our property tax rate is 0.81%. Yours is 1.90%. The #1 employer in TX is Walmart. In CA it's UC. Not that that really matters. [1] You haven't shown that the COL is 3-10 times higher in CA than in TX. A reliable cite would help. More, yes. 3-10 time more? No, that's not even remotely true. [1] http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-are-the-largest-employers-in-the-us-state-by-state-2017-01-26 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-are-the-largest-emplo...
      - austincheney 9y ago
        * http://www.compare50.org/chart/index/chart/218/states/57,96 http://www.compare50.org/chart/index/chart/218/states/57,96 - A good place to start with lots of data. The graphs indicate state by state rank opposed to raw values. * I already linked to a site that does city by city comparisons, but there are so many online.
        CalChris 9y ago
        Thank you, sir. That gives rankings. I'm still waiting for something that shows that CA has a 3-10 x COL than does TX. Your per capita state spending is $4,568 vs CA's $6,774. So it isn't there. Payscale sure isn't saying 3-10x. http://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator/Texas-Austin/California-Los-Angeles http://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator/Texas-Aust...
  - Veelox 9y ago
    Per http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-living-calculator.aspx http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... If you move from San Francisco to Austin TX, you can take a 45% pay cut and live the same, I don't think this accounts for income tax which comes out to probably brings it to a 50% pay cut. So I would say 2x

…Or move to California — Job Hopping, A California Right and Non Compete Agreements: http://www.rhdtlaw.com/job-hopping-california-right/ http://www.rhdtlaw.com/job-hopping-california-right/

throwaway91111 9y ago

Yea, that's not enough. If it isn't enforcable in your state, demand they rip it out of your contract. This isn't going to go away otherwise.

austincheney 9y ago

Or move to Texas where laws make non-compete agreements are really hard to enforce, as in the employer has to prove harm not associated with loss of labor. Cost of living is about 3-10x cheaper in Texas. https://www.texasnoncompetelaw.com/articles/noncompete-agreements/ https://www.texasnoncompetelaw.com/articles/noncompete-agree...

CalChris 9y ago
> Cost of living is about 3-10x cheaper in Texas Idaho is cheaper than Texas. And no, Texas is not 3-10x cheaper than even California. In addition, you get paid less in TX than in CA.
- chrnic27 9y ago
  Then why are there more Californians moving to Texas than vice versa? You really need to step out of your tech bubble. Remember how Donald Trump won the US election? If you were in the Bay area, I bet you would've never fathomed that since it's a bubble. Source: live in Mountain View
- austincheney 9y ago
  http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fort-worth-tx/los-gatos-ca/150000 http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fort-worth-tx/los-g... TX doesn't have state income tax, but CA does. TX has close to the cheapest fuel prices in the country while the bay area has the most expensive fuel prices in the country. Food costs less in TX and there is no sales tax on retail food purchases in TX. Yes, you get paid less in TX. For an average software developer you tend to get paid about 40-60% less. Since the cost of living is probably 3x more in CA getting paid a little less in TX still puts you at a huge financial advantage. I am not guessing at this. I am looking at the numbers and performing very simple arithmetic.
  - CalChris 9y ago
    Meals are taxed in TX as they are in CA. Groceries aren't taxed in TX as they aren't in CA. Gas is more in CA (2.89) than in TX (2.03). Our property tax rate is 0.81%. Yours is 1.90%. The #1 employer in TX is Walmart. In CA it's UC. Not that that really matters. [1] You haven't shown that the COL is 3-10 times higher in CA than in TX. A reliable cite would help. More, yes. 3-10 time more? No, that's not even remotely true. [1] http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-are-the-largest-employers-in-the-us-state-by-state-2017-01-26 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-are-the-largest-emplo...
    - austincheney 9y ago
      * http://www.compare50.org/chart/index/chart/218/states/57,96 http://www.compare50.org/chart/index/chart/218/states/57,96 - A good place to start with lots of data. The graphs indicate state by state rank opposed to raw values. * I already linked to a site that does city by city comparisons, but there are so many online.
      - CalChris 9y ago
        Thank you, sir. That gives rankings. I'm still waiting for something that shows that CA has a 3-10 x COL than does TX. Your per capita state spending is $4,568 vs CA's $6,774. So it isn't there. Payscale sure isn't saying 3-10x. http://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator/Texas-Austin/California-Los-Angeles http://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator/Texas-Aust...
- Veelox 9y ago
  Per http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-living-calculator.aspx http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... If you move from San Francisco to Austin TX, you can take a 45% pay cut and live the same, I don't think this accounts for income tax which comes out to probably brings it to a 50% pay cut. So I would say 2x