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Meanwhile in Germany I feel we are a decade behind the US when it comes to accepting electronic payments. In Berlin there are so many Bars/restaurants that are

Meanwhile in Germany I feel we are a decade behind the US when it comes to accepting electronic payments. In Berlin there are so many Bars/restaurants that are "cash only" when the next ATM (that is a partner of your bank, otherwise you pay a 5 EUR fee to withdraw) is blocks away... It's beyond annoying

posguy 9y ago
Cash in most cases is better for the business, hence why its so popular.
- thg 9y ago
  Cash is the only unrestricted currency in Germany. Law demands that they have to accept it.
  - germanier 9y ago
    No, law does not demand that. You have to accept it to settle existing debt but that's it. For new customers you can demand any payment method you want. If they don't like it they are free to not form a contract. A cashless restaurant would be legal. They are just rare because of customer preference. But just look at online shops: they generally don't allow you to pay cash.
    - thg 9y ago
      https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bbankg/__14.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bbankg/__14.html "Auf Euro lautende Banknoten sind das einzige unbeschränkte gesetzliche Zahlungsmittel." Online shops allow you to pay cash through payment on delivery (Nachnahme).
      - germanier 9y ago
        As I said, this law does not mean that you have to accept cash for every transaction. It is often repeated but that does not make it true. Requiring a specific form of payment is well within the freedom of contract. And Nachname is not offered by every shop, probably not even the majority. If it's offered the usually for a steep surcharge. And while we are at it: Try paying your car tax in cash to the government and you will find it to be absolutely impossible.
jsilence 9y ago
And I think that is a good thing.
- kayoone 9y ago
  i have no problem with accepting cash, just when its cash only. Or at least don't scam people when they want to withdraw 20 EUR from a bank that is not their with 5 EUR fee. Sometimes i just don't have cash on me and when i learn i can't pay for the 40 EUR dinner i just had by card and have to go look for an ATM, it's just annoying.
DinosaurArms 9y ago
And from my experience New Zealand was a decade ahead of the US for a long time. Growing up everywhere accepted card payments. I had a bank card when I was about 10 and that's how I spent my pocket money. Over here in Germany some places that do accept card only accept EC cards, which my N26 MasterCard isn't. Not having the right payment method to pay the people who installed the kitchen in the apartment I was renting was a very foreign situation.

posguy 9y ago

Cash in most cases is better for the business, hence why its so popular.

thg 9y ago
Cash is the only unrestricted currency in Germany. Law demands that they have to accept it.
- germanier 9y ago
  No, law does not demand that. You have to accept it to settle existing debt but that's it. For new customers you can demand any payment method you want. If they don't like it they are free to not form a contract. A cashless restaurant would be legal. They are just rare because of customer preference. But just look at online shops: they generally don't allow you to pay cash.
  - thg 9y ago
    https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bbankg/__14.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bbankg/__14.html "Auf Euro lautende Banknoten sind das einzige unbeschränkte gesetzliche Zahlungsmittel." Online shops allow you to pay cash through payment on delivery (Nachnahme).
    - germanier 9y ago
      As I said, this law does not mean that you have to accept cash for every transaction. It is often repeated but that does not make it true. Requiring a specific form of payment is well within the freedom of contract. And Nachname is not offered by every shop, probably not even the majority. If it's offered the usually for a steep surcharge. And while we are at it: Try paying your car tax in cash to the government and you will find it to be absolutely impossible.

jsilence 9y ago

And I think that is a good thing.

kayoone 9y ago
i have no problem with accepting cash, just when its cash only. Or at least don't scam people when they want to withdraw 20 EUR from a bank that is not their with 5 EUR fee. Sometimes i just don't have cash on me and when i learn i can't pay for the 40 EUR dinner i just had by card and have to go look for an ATM, it's just annoying.

DinosaurArms 9y ago

And from my experience New Zealand was a decade ahead of the US for a long time. Growing up everywhere accepted card payments. I had a bank card when I was about 10 and that's how I spent my pocket money. Over here in Germany some places that do accept card only accept EC cards, which my N26 MasterCard isn't. Not having the right payment method to pay the people who installed the kitchen in the apartment I was renting was a very foreign situation.