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> In the video, Suh shows screen shots of the exchange, including a message from Barker saying, “It’s is why we have Trump” and, “I will not allow this country

> In the video, Suh shows screen shots of the exchange, including a message from Barker saying, “It’s is why we have Trump” and, “I will not allow this country to be told what to do by foreigners.” Conservatively considering 45% to 48% of the registered Voters voted for Trump, what %age of those voters think like this? => “I will not allow this country to be told what to do by foreigners.” Alarming.

TallGuyShort 9y ago
Percentage of voting age population that even voted at all was lower than that, and percentage of registered voters was not much higher. Be wary of thinking "48% of America" => "I will not allow this country to be told what to do by foreigners". It's not that different than thinking any Democrat will go off on you for assuming their gender. What I find more alarming is the percentage of people who really feel like they're reasonable and half of the country is their enemy on both sides.
- sqeaky 9y ago
  But when you have president that is a rallying point for racism and actively says a major existential threat to humanity is "a chinese hoax", it is hard not to view that person as a threat and enemy. He has demonstrated a stunning immunity to logic and willingness to harm American interests. He ignores open dialog. He and his who can't be talked to (which are most I have talked to) are the enemy. They represent and embrace ignorance and want a kind of backwards thinking and social order that only makes sense in the myopic view. They are anti-science while using tools made by and for science to communicate and often see no hypocrisy in any of this. They are the reason we have terms like "post-truth". They often can't be reasoned with. They often seem will to deploy violence. They are doing real harm. How are they not the enemy?
  - TallGuyShort 9y ago
    >> They often can't be reasoned with. They often seem will to deploy violence. They are doing real harm. You... do understand that many conservatives think exactly that of liberals and that's what I think is more dangerous than either one alone, right?
eregorn 9y ago
Considering the terrible turnout the country has, you're looking more at 25%~ of registered voters voting for Trump.

TallGuyShort 9y ago

Percentage of voting age population that even voted at all was lower than that, and percentage of registered voters was not much higher. Be wary of thinking "48% of America" => "I will not allow this country to be told what to do by foreigners". It's not that different than thinking any Democrat will go off on you for assuming their gender. What I find more alarming is the percentage of people who really feel like they're reasonable and half of the country is their enemy on both sides.

sqeaky 9y ago
But when you have president that is a rallying point for racism and actively says a major existential threat to humanity is "a chinese hoax", it is hard not to view that person as a threat and enemy. He has demonstrated a stunning immunity to logic and willingness to harm American interests. He ignores open dialog. He and his who can't be talked to (which are most I have talked to) are the enemy. They represent and embrace ignorance and want a kind of backwards thinking and social order that only makes sense in the myopic view. They are anti-science while using tools made by and for science to communicate and often see no hypocrisy in any of this. They are the reason we have terms like "post-truth". They often can't be reasoned with. They often seem will to deploy violence. They are doing real harm. How are they not the enemy?
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  >> They often can't be reasoned with. They often seem will to deploy violence. They are doing real harm. You... do understand that many conservatives think exactly that of liberals and that's what I think is more dangerous than either one alone, right?

eregorn 9y ago

Considering the terrible turnout the country has, you're looking more at 25%~ of registered voters voting for Trump.