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You're conflating your personal experience with modern courtship and kinship rituals in a particular society with some sort of universality of human nature. Tha

You're conflating your personal experience with modern courtship and kinship rituals in a particular society with some sort of universality of human nature. That's a nice way of saying you're wrong. You and all other humans exist because of what you say you believe would "destroy society". Sex wasn't even associated with pregnancy, let alone progeny until fairly recent history. There are existing kinship models where the "husband" is the father of all of his wives' children, even if he's 80 years old and has ED. Native American courtship rituals placed women in control of their relationships with multiple partners. There's more than one way, and humans have done them all for millennia. The fact that US vernacular doesn't have common terms to distinguish between the people who raise you (your parents) and the people whose genes you posses (your genitor/genetrix) speaks volumes about it's dimness in the face of modern understanding. Just because you don't think you or the other products of your society could handle it doesn't mean an entire species is de facto incapable.

remarkEon 9y ago
>You're conflating your personal experience with modern courtship and kinship rituals in a particular society with some sort of universality of human nature. That's a nice way of saying you're wrong. Except his personal experience seems to map onto the general history of the emergence of marriage in society as a useful social technology to do exactly what he says: take males out of competition for mates and put them to use for society so their kids don't starve. >Sex wasn't even associated with pregnancy, let alone progeny until fairly recent history. This is not true in the slightest. Even the iconography of sex throughout ancient history explicitly links sex to pregnancy. We started domesticating animals at least ~15,000 years ago. We did not "recently" discover this unless I'm misunderstanding your time horizon. >The fact that US vernacular doesn't have common terms to distinguish between the people who raise you (your parents) and the people whose genes you posses (your genitor/genetrix) speaks volumes about it's dimness in the face of modern understanding. What is "modern understanding?" That your biological parents don't matter? As others have pointed out, if you want to accelerate societal collapse that's the fastest way to do it.
cmahler7 9y ago
The reality is our brains are built on hardware hundreds of millions of years old. It would be nice if we could build a perfect world but until we can genetically modify ourselves we are stuck with it and all the biases and instincts associated with it. Our strongest instinct is to procreate, social conditioning can't stop that.

remarkEon 9y ago

>You're conflating your personal experience with modern courtship and kinship rituals in a particular society with some sort of universality of human nature. That's a nice way of saying you're wrong. Except his personal experience seems to map onto the general history of the emergence of marriage in society as a useful social technology to do exactly what he says: take males out of competition for mates and put them to use for society so their kids don't starve. >Sex wasn't even associated with pregnancy, let alone progeny until fairly recent history. This is not true in the slightest. Even the iconography of sex throughout ancient history explicitly links sex to pregnancy. We started domesticating animals at least ~15,000 years ago. We did not "recently" discover this unless I'm misunderstanding your time horizon. >The fact that US vernacular doesn't have common terms to distinguish between the people who raise you (your parents) and the people whose genes you posses (your genitor/genetrix) speaks volumes about it's dimness in the face of modern understanding. What is "modern understanding?" That your biological parents don't matter? As others have pointed out, if you want to accelerate societal collapse that's the fastest way to do it.

cmahler7 9y ago

The reality is our brains are built on hardware hundreds of millions of years old. It would be nice if we could build a perfect world but until we can genetically modify ourselves we are stuck with it and all the biases and instincts associated with it. Our strongest instinct is to procreate, social conditioning can't stop that.