The god-awful UI was not central to my point. Your talk about their hardware engineering chops completely ignores the very real evidence we have that their sof

The god-awful UI was not central to my point. Your talk about their hardware engineering chops completely ignores the very real evidence we have that their software engineering efforts are utterly horrifying. Have you seen the reports about Toyota's software development practices? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9643551 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9643551 By all accounts, while Toyota is a particularly bad offender, these kinds of problems are not unique to them. Software engineering is not something that historically-hardware manufacturing companies tend to have the culture to perform well.